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Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:30 am
by Nooska
I usually sell them for 2.5k, but apart from that, being bottlenecked by SoH isn't doing me any good in earning gold :)

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:46 pm
by Skye1013
Tailoring leg enchants require 1 Imperial Silk, which is 8 bolts (once per day) or 3 SoH + 5 bolts (as often as you like.) Last I looked they were ~1k on my server (was over a week ago, so I imagine it hasn't held at that price.)

I'm wondering if I should be more devout about making my daily Sha Crystals or just wait until we start raiding normals and DE the inevitable unusable items.

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:15 pm
by Skye1013
Saw some people hawking the new weapon enchants. Out of curiousity I checked auctioneer for their list prices... Dancing Steel (the dodge one) is apparently priced at 20k per enchant... the other two were listed at ~10k each. Looks like I won't be changing from Windsong any time soon.

Edit: Also had a leftover +50 int to bracers scroll on my mage... on a whim I posted it for 1k and it sold. Might be a lucrative market until the new ones become more widely available?

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:55 am
by Holyblaze
So...the SoH has been more than a cock block to me. If I had known how bad the issue was going to be I would have lvled my Paladin first as hes my BS/Engie. I made PHAT Goblin bank the first night/day of MoP selling my ores for a ton each, but by the 2nd day they were at the lvl of Obsidian at the end of Cata. I have all my skills at lvl 600 now, but tat means dick without any SoH.

haha bah! I have been selling all my old Cata stocks like I used to...so damn ODD this dynamic.

I sure dont know JC shit I have to say. That looks like a HUGE market like it ever is. I just not made some diamonds and will sell them raw and see how that goes (400% margins this first go). haha WAY behind the damn curve this time on JC. Anyone doing the JC shuffle anymore with this new shiat?

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:27 am
by jere
What methods/logic are yall using to price your Spirits of Harmony for crafting? I've been using Golden Lotus prices as a guide since you can buy those with SoH. I've had moderate success with 750 per SoH. I could go lower, but at that point would be better off selling the Golden Lotus's instead.

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:31 am
by Volitaire
It is pretty server dependent from what I have seen. We are still floating around 1k per on my server.

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:41 pm
by halabar
jere wrote:What methods/logic are yall using to price your Spirits of Harmony for crafting? I've been using Golden Lotus prices as a guide since you can buy those with SoH. I've had moderate success with 750 per SoH. I could go lower, but at that point would be better off selling the Golden Lotus's instead.


You seem to be on the right track there, however... I've seen people either without the tradeskills or the inclination to use them buying the GL and dumping them on the AH a bit. Enough that it might be worth sucking those up to resell as flasks.

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:48 pm
by Holyblaze
GL is down to 176g on my server this morning. Id be down on getting the know how on where I could swap out a GL for a SoH. WOULD love to know.

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:02 pm
by Skye1013
Holyblaze, it's SoH for GL (Alliance vendor is at Shrine of the Seven Stars on the platform near the flight master.) AFAIK there isn't any place to swap the other direction.

I believe you get 3 GL for 1 SoH, so at your server's price, you'd be looking to price your SoH at around 525g.

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:03 pm
by masterpoobaa
Looks like there is steady income to be had in the Cata level 79/80 JC crafted rings/necklaces.

1g5s for a setting from the JC vendor.
75silver up to 8g per Alicite or Jasper.

Blue quality rings sell for 250-300g still, greens are still selling in steady amounts for 20-50g.
All those toons leveling up need gear!

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:12 pm
by Holyblaze
Skye1013 wrote:Holyblaze, it's SoH for GL (Alliance vendor is at Shrine of the Seven Stars on the platform near the flight master.) AFAIK there isn't any place to swap the other direction.

I believe you get 3 GL for 1 SoH, so at your server's price, you'd be looking to price your SoH at around 525g.



ACK! I could never do that me think. I dont want to do Farmville in WOW, so doing the Tillers for my SoH also makes me cry!

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:25 pm
by Skye1013
You can get SoH from the Golden Lotus treasure boxes, fishing, archaeology (I think?), mining*, herbing**, killing mobs, and farming. If none of those interest you, then I'm sorry to say that you'll have to wait to see if SoH ever become non-BoP, and by that time, I'd imagine a lot of the "big money" will have died down.

*Pretty sure I've gotten motes from mining nodes.
**I'm assuming based on mining.

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:06 am
by halabar
Skye1013 wrote:You can get SoH from the Golden Lotus treasure boxes, fishing, archaeology (I think?), mining*, herbing**, killing mobs, and farming. If none of those interest you, then I'm sorry to say that you'll have to wait to see if SoH ever become non-BoP, and by that time, I'd imagine a lot of the "big money" will have died down.

*Pretty sure I've gotten motes from mining nodes.
**I'm assuming based on mining.


No on mining, arch, fishing, herbing.

You need to kill stuff or play Farmville.

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:09 am
by degre
Skye1013 wrote:You can get SoH from the Golden Lotus treasure boxes, fishing, archaeology (I think?), mining*, herbing**, killing mobs, and farming. If none of those interest you, then I'm sorry to say that you'll have to wait to see if SoH ever become non-BoP, and by that time, I'd imagine a lot of the "big money" will have died down.

*Pretty sure I've gotten motes from mining nodes.
**I'm assuming based on mining.

I think this might have been true at a certain point on Beta, because I am sure I have seen a mote coming out of a node, but never after that.

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:35 am
by halabar
degre wrote:
Skye1013 wrote:You can get SoH from the Golden Lotus treasure boxes, fishing, archaeology (I think?), mining*, herbing**, killing mobs, and farming. If none of those interest you, then I'm sorry to say that you'll have to wait to see if SoH ever become non-BoP, and by that time, I'd imagine a lot of the "big money" will have died down.

*Pretty sure I've gotten motes from mining nodes.
**I'm assuming based on mining.

I think this might have been true at a certain point on Beta, because I am sure I have seen a mote coming out of a node, but never after that.


Yep, early in beta, not after that.

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:41 pm
by Skye1013
You can with fishing. The sealed crates drop them occasionally.

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:42 am
by halabar
Skye1013 wrote:You can with fishing. The sealed crates drop them occasionally.


But not consistently enough to be a system to get them. I've gotten trillium ore once, not going to depend on those for a source of ore.

Best source is still killing higher level stuff.

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:32 pm
by Skye1013
Might not be quick, but it's still doable ;). And if you're a big fan of fishing, but not killing things, then it sounds like a win to me.

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:15 am
by halabar
Skye1013 wrote:Might not be quick, but it's still doable ;). And if you're a big fan of fishing, but not killing things, then it sounds like a win to me.


Considering you can get 16 motes a day from the farm, getting 2 motes a week from fishing is hardly worthwhile, especially given the better drop rate in just killing stuff.

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:52 am
by Teranoid
So is the shuffle even worth it in MoP? I'm sitting on a giant amount of lesser gems and I'm debating whether or not it's just better to take the risk in getting perfect gems or just make them into rings and whatnot.

Also whoever decided every gem xmute should use a golden lotus is an idiot and should be fired.

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:36 am
by halabar
Teranoid wrote:So is the shuffle even worth it in MoP? I'm sitting on a giant amount of lesser gems and I'm debating whether or not it's just better to take the risk in getting perfect gems or just make them into rings and whatnot.


Too early to tell. Not enough sockets yet, and the rate of gearing has been slowed due to the new LFR loot system. I've sold some perfect gems, but the rings and whatnot sell SLOWLY.

However, what seems to be happening, at least on my server, is we are battling mature economies. Not a lot of room for major moves.

The other issue is the new dailies, which mean that people are spending a lot more time on mains, and a lot less time on alts, which result in less demand for a lot of stuff. A lot of alts are getting mothballed.

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:48 am
by Teranoid
I was thinking more of just DE'ing the rings. All I know is sitting on 200+ of every lesser gem is annoying and eating away at my already limited bank space.

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:47 am
by sahiel
I've actually had great success selling the rare rings for 250-400g depending on the suffix, I suspect it all depends on how many people level alts on your server. Mine has very little raiding and such Horde side, so people tend to spend a lot of time gearing and leveling alts, which has led to a very healthy state of sales for both the Cata and MoP rare rings/necks from JCing.

The shuffle is alive and well, it just ignores perfect cuts on most realms as the jewellry gives a far better rate of return. Ghost Iron > Prospect > Cut/sell rares > craft uncommons into JC gear > sell rares > DE uncommons > sell scrolls.

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:45 pm
by Holyblaze
sahiel wrote:I've actually had great success selling the rare rings for 250-400g depending on the suffix, I suspect it all depends on how many people level alts on your server. Mine has very little raiding and such Horde side, so people tend to spend a lot of time gearing and leveling alts, which has led to a very healthy state of sales for both the Cata and MoP rare rings/necks from JCing.

The shuffle is alive and well, it just ignores perfect cuts on most realms as the jewellry gives a far better rate of return. Ghost Iron > Prospect > Cut/sell rares > craft uncommons into JC gear > sell rares > DE uncommons > sell scrolls.



This...100% this.

Re: Making Gold on the AH

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:37 pm
by halabar
Holyblaze wrote:
sahiel wrote:I've actually had great success selling the rare rings for 250-400g depending on the suffix, I suspect it all depends on how many people level alts on your server. Mine has very little raiding and such Horde side, so people tend to spend a lot of time gearing and leveling alts, which has led to a very healthy state of sales for both the Cata and MoP rare rings/necks from JCing.

The shuffle is alive and well, it just ignores perfect cuts on most realms as the jewellry gives a far better rate of return. Ghost Iron > Prospect > Cut/sell rares > craft uncommons into JC gear > sell rares > DE uncommons > sell scrolls.



This...100% this.


Hasn't worked as well on my server, what has been working better is DEing the cloth and leather items, for those that can craft them.

In other news, the best shuffle still might be the cooking mats.