Making Gold on the AH

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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Digren » Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:46 am

amh wrote:The 50-items-per-minute limit on the mailbox is getting pretty annoying. I might have to cut down on amount of glyphs I create of each type, just so I don't have to spend half an hour between cancelling and relisting everything. Made a new record yesterday, when cancelling 1200 auctions >.>

Reloading your UI resets the timer. Depending on the time left, it's often faster.

It's /reloadui or /console reloadui() or something depending on what addons you have installed.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby daemonym » Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:09 am

Digren wrote:
amh wrote:The 50-items-per-minute limit on the mailbox is getting pretty annoying. I might have to cut down on amount of glyphs I create of each type, just so I don't have to spend half an hour between cancelling and relisting everything. Made a new record yesterday, when cancelling 1200 auctions >.>

Reloading your UI resets the timer. Depending on the time left, it's often faster.

It's /reloadui or /console reloadui() or something depending on what addons you have installed.


/reload
/reload ui
/console reloadui
/console reload ui

Those are all of your options. I put it into a macro bound to control+3 on my bankers for easy access.

And if I happen to have something to read (such as MTadin) I'll use the reload macro to collect the mail. On an average day in UC it takes about 25 seconds +/- to collect a set of 50 mails, another 15ish to finish reloading and restart the process. So it saves a noticeable amount of time when collecting an ass ton of mail. But again, the option to go out to the store or get some lunch while automatically collecting your mail while you're out and about is just awesome, so the addOn mailOpener is great.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby KysenMurrin » Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:23 am

I don't know exactly which addons enable it, but /rl might also work. Does for me (I didn't realise it was an addon thing, but apparently it is). Much quicker than the alternatives.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby amh » Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:28 pm

Price-check: Spellsurge. Wowhead says 1001g. Outdated?
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Chunes » Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:56 pm

I wouldn't ever use wowhead as an accurate indication of what an item should be sold for. That formula will sell for whatever your server's market will tolerate, it may be around 1k gold, it may be 10 gold.

I have not seen any spellsurge scrolls nor have I seen the enchant itself, so either it's rare and nobody has it on my backwater server, or those that do have it do not waste the time crafting scrolls of spellsurge since there is no demand.

I'm just guessing, but based on the proc of the enchant it seems like it wouldn't be a popular enchant.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby amh » Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:11 pm

Chunes wrote:That formula will sell for whatever your server's market will tolerate, it may be around 1k gold, it may be 10 gold.


While true, wowhead is often used for price-checks when people buy stuff, at least over here. Just wondering if anyone's seen it lately. I didn't have the highest expectations for it, but at least it was a drop, not something I wanted to shift for some easy gold. :)
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Levantine » Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:13 pm

Every healer worth their salt used to have a spellsurge weapon and weapon swapped to get the proc since it would go off almost as soon as the ICD was up and then swap back to their usual weapons. When they killed weapon swapping for casters they killed Spellsurge.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Shamora » Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:21 pm

If anything you might be able to sell it at a stupid high price to collectors.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby daemonym » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:15 pm

Shamora wrote:If anything you might be able to sell it at a stupid high price to collectors.


Sound advice here. I've managed to flip a few rare world drop recipes to collectors such as demon slaying and superior striking. Bought them out for about 100g and resold within a week at 600g. Besides if nothing else, what do you have to lose for listing it for 600g other than 3.8 seconds of your time?
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby hoho » Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:10 am

daemonym wrote:rare world drop recipes to collectors such as demon slaying
Demonslaying is rare? I think I have at least 4-5 of them on various alts, haven't been able to sell them even for 10g so far
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Chunes » Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:40 am

hoho wrote:
daemonym wrote:rare world drop recipes to collectors such as demon slaying
Demonslaying is rare? I think I have at least 4-5 of them on various alts, haven't been able to sell them even for 10g so far


As with all things AH, ymmv greatly.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Jasari » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:13 am

Wow, I decided to check out the armory AH and it's pretty awesome. Being able to post things directly from my mailbox to the AH, especially with the "relist" button. I sort of hope they redo the in game AH UI to look more like the armory version of it.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby cds4850 » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:32 am

Jasari wrote:Wow, I decided to check out the armory AH and it's pretty awesome. Being able to post things directly from my mailbox to the AH, especially with the "relist" button. I sort of hope they redo the in game AH UI to look more like the armory version of it.

Huh, now I'm confused. I thought ALL remote AH access was in beta, both the phone application as well as armory based portal.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Marwan » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:34 am

cds4850 wrote:
Jasari wrote:Wow, I decided to check out the armory AH and it's pretty awesome. Being able to post things directly from my mailbox to the AH, especially with the "relist" button. I sort of hope they redo the in game AH UI to look more like the armory version of it.

Huh, now I'm confused. I thought ALL remote AH access was in beta, both the phone application as well as armory based portal.


It technically is. It's in open beta on all realms now. Basically they're having people test it out, and giving them a tease of the service for free before they go LIVE and start charging $2.99 a month for the service.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Jasari » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:41 am

Marwan wrote:
cds4850 wrote:
Jasari wrote:Wow, I decided to check out the armory AH and it's pretty awesome. Being able to post things directly from my mailbox to the AH, especially with the "relist" button. I sort of hope they redo the in game AH UI to look more like the armory version of it.

Huh, now I'm confused. I thought ALL remote AH access was in beta, both the phone application as well as armory based portal.


It technically is. It's in open beta on all realms now. Basically they're having people test it out, and giving them a tease of the service for free before they go LIVE and start charging $2.99 a month for the service.


This.

It's available to anyone for free right now, but is limited to only 25 transactions per day (which takes about 5 minutes to use up). I still probably won't pay for it when it "goes live", but will take advantage of reposting a handful of auctions during lunch while it's free.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby amh » Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:34 am

Shamora wrote:If anything you might be able to sell it at a stupid high price to collectors.


Collectors are crazy. It sold within the day for 1000g. Whoop.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Kelaan » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:54 am

amh wrote:
Shamora wrote:If anything you might be able to sell it at a stupid high price to collectors.

Collectors are crazy. It sold within the day for 1000g. Whoop.


That's like the analysis I read about the ZG Polymorph:Turtle book. It basically said that if you sell faster than you can farm it, you're selling it too cheaply. Thus, 2k is too cheap, 5k is closer, or some crazy shit like that. (: Clearly YMMV though, as when I looked at it my server had like 5 of the books on the AH, heh...
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby sherck » Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:14 am

What do people think about the viability of farming/buying cheap the mid-level raw mats now and holding them for when Cata goes live? Lots of Worgen will be powerleveling professions and there will be tons of profession rerolls as they follow the new FotM. I think the first two weeks could see some crazy prices on these mats in addition to the crazy prices on the Cata mats.

Opinions on whether the upper part of the Old World (Mithril / Thorium / Sungrass / Plaguebloom ) mats would be more in demand or if Outlands mats will be in demand?

My wonder is that if the new questing areas are right next to the Old World upper level areas is that everyone will just hop over to farm the mats rather than pay stupid high prices but many may balk at the "time waste" of going to Outlands to farm them.

Also, how about stockpiling Wrath mats because many will be "dumping" them just prior to Cata. Or are those obvious enought that someone who wants to create a Worgen will stockpile those but not the TBC / upper Old World ones.

Mining, Herb, buying up gems, buying up Enchanting mats. 30 stacks of each? 100 stacks of each?

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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Chunes » Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:53 am

@ Sherk

I am considering doing the same thing. My focus will likely be old world and outland ores, but i'm reluctant to center my stockpile (stokpile eh?) strategy based on the current "level X profession" guides due to the changes to leveling profs they've mentioned.

It sounds like the route to a capped profession may look a little different in cata than it does now, but surely there will always be a need for the raw gathered materials.

Makes me realize just how many bags/bank slots/gbank slots i'm really going to need for this...
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby daemonym » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:06 pm

sherck wrote:
Also, how about stockpiling Wrath mats because many will be "dumping" them just prior to Cata. Or are those obvious enought that someone who wants to create a Worgen will stockpile those but not the TBC / upper Old World ones.

Mining, Herb, buying up gems, buying up Enchanting mats. 30 stacks of each? 100 stacks of each?

Opinions?

Cheers,


I would, but if you're doing this for the potential resale you'll have to have a decent amount of gold to throw around and a good dose of patience. When wrath released, two months prior you couldn't even give away arcane dust, now it sells for 50g/stack every single day. For the people leveling professions, ESPECIALLY enchanting, they'll be buying it all up.

The thing about enchanting is that you can't really "farm the mats" outside of questing on an enchanter that's of proper skill to DE the rewards. And even then, not every quest gives green rewards or anything at all minus gold so everybody will just go to the AH to level it up. So if you can afford to buy a ton of it when the prices plummet and can afford to wait a month or three, you can easily triple your investment.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby hoho » Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:43 am

One problem with stockpiling old-world stuff to sell to new chars is that many of those new chars will be gathering stuff during leveling too so it's likely the supply for those will increase. Though question is if the increase is big enough to make stockpiling worthless or not. My guess is you'll still earn a whole bunch of gold through selling old stuff, just perhaps not as much as you'd think.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby rodos » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:11 am

I think any kind of expansion-related speculation is very risky. For instance, what if Blizzard made a late decision to remove the "previous tier" requirement for creating enchanting rods, or removed them entirely? The market for arcanite and primal might would evaporate.

What's more, there are always second-order effects created by other speculators. Many times I've seen a patch note that points to a certain mat becoming more valuable. However, so many people read this and stockpile that material "to make a killing" that come patch day the price actually crashes as everyone tries to sell their stockpile.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Boyfriend » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:53 am

I would be very careful about stockpiling wotlk enchanting mats.
The situation is entirely different from tbc.

It's likely that with the massive gear jump it will be possible to solo naxx 10 man.
And unlike in tbc you can turn abyss crystals into enchanting mats for levelling using abyssal shatter.

It might not take care of all demand, but it's not the same situation as in tbc where planar essences are only available from disenchanting greens which are not trivial to farm.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Jasari » Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:43 am

Blizzard has also mentioned that they're slightly revamping the profession leveling model so that you get more skill points for more "difficult" items. It wouldn't surprise me it ultimately resulted in less materials being required to level, especially at "choke" points.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Korola » Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:24 am

I farmed 80 stacks of cobalt ore two weeks ago. Banked the eternals and gems.
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I farmed 80 stacks of saronite ore last week. Banked the eternals and gems.
(another guild bank tab)
This week it is borean leather.

Going to start working my way down the expansions. The race to level cap leaves so many people without time to farm mats and they are likely to burn all that 'extra' gold from wrath dailies rather than wait.
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