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I'm now crushable.

Postby saemund » Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:08 pm

Before the patch I could hit 102.4% unbuffed in my tanking gear.

Somehow since the patch I am now just 1% crushable, without changing any of my tanking gear, enchants or gems.

Has there been some undocumented changes I am unaware of?

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Re: I'm now crushable.

Postby Fridmarr » Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:00 pm

saemund wrote:Before the patch I could hit 102.4% unbuffed in my tanking gear.

Somehow since the patch I am now just 1% crushable, without changing any of my tanking gear, enchants or gems.

Has there been some undocumented changes I am unaware of?

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Take all your gear off and put it back on and see if that fixes things.
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Postby saemund » Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:15 pm

Hmm. CTRL-ALT-DEL and reboot the tank...
I'll give it a shot
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Postby Fridmarr » Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:38 pm

saemund wrote:Hmm. CTRL-ALT-DEL and reboot the tank...
I'll give it a shot


There used to be a bug where sometimes some of your enchants were not counted in your stats, I got in the habbit of checking them before any boss pull. 2.2 may have caused it to come back, there haven't been any changes that I can think of that would have caused your avoidance to drop, at least not any documented ones.
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Postby Worldie » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:51 pm

The stats on many SSC/TK items have been reworked, maybe check if this rework affecter your avoidance
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Postby kvark » Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:00 am

I'm far into uncrushable ( appx 110% with HS up ), yet gruul crushed me 2-3 seconds into my holy shield and hit my head way down into my wrynn's. I've yet to figure out why.
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Postby Jarkeld » Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:57 am

I actually had a similar experience on Lurker the other day Kvark, holy shield was halfway through it's cooldown, was in add pickup gear so at over 110% to prevent crushes, and he crushed me. It did happen when I was straffing sideways to move him back into position after his spout, so might have been some messed up server lag or something.
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Postby saemund » Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:18 pm

That doesn't sound like the problem I'm experiencing.
Before the patch Tank Points and my manual calculations put me over 103% uncrushable before buffs.

Since the patch, and after re-moving and re-equipping my tanking gear my score whilst buffed sits at just over 101%

None of my gear has changed. None of the enchants or gems have changed.
It's all Kara and heroic kit.

I'm quite baffled and miffed in all honesty. Especially as I've just started with a new raid guild.
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Postby Fridmarr » Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:52 am

saemund wrote:That doesn't sound like the problem I'm experiencing.
Before the patch Tank Points and my manual calculations put me over 103% uncrushable before buffs.

Since the patch, and after re-moving and re-equipping my tanking gear my score whilst buffed sits at just over 101%

None of my gear has changed. None of the enchants or gems have changed.
It's all Kara and heroic kit.

I'm quite baffled and miffed in all honesty. Especially as I've just started with a new raid guild.


Well i'm reaching but did you update your tankpoints after the patch and it hadn't been updated in awhile? A few months back they changed the calculation to use a level 73 mob (or more correctly the mob level that was entered, which is 73 by default), and so on tankpoints now, you only need 100%.
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Postby Adin » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:48 am

After a strange bluescreen crash upon exiting wow on saturday most of my addons got corupted, so on sunday i reinstalled most and I too noticed i was nolonger uncrushable according to tankpoints. (1 or 2 % below!)

I'll have to investigate the changes when I get home, you might have just lifted the confused fog that was following me around yesterday. :)
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Postby Base » Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:22 am

WTB addons that work after patches!

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Postby Worldie » Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:40 am

Use this macro to check uncrushability

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/script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Need 102.4 combined avoidance. Currently at:",0.8,0.8,1)
/script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(GetDodgeChance()+GetBlockChance() + GetParryChance() +5+(GetCombatRatingBonus(CR_DEFENSE_SKILL) + 20)*0.04,1,0.5,0)
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Postby Adin » Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:30 am

hmm, actually i've just run the math and I think i am 2% crushable!!
looks like i overdid the avoidance > stam process a bit. :oops:

I don't want to derail the thread, but can someone doublecheck my math please? (from current armoury unbuffed,sig prob differs)
dodge: 15.63
parry: 17.07
block: 21.49
I'm not sure about the math on miss... def is 496 so :5+ (0.04x(496-350)) =8.76 ? however i've also seen 10+(0.04x(496-490)) and also 10.6+(0.04x(496-490)) .. not sure which one is correct.

It's not really an issue, as i was definately uncrushable, i'll just have to revert to another blue or two instead of the recent +stam epic changes i've made :roll:

also WOOT @ elthar for tanking nightbane last night, gj!!
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Postby Base » Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:56 am

Adin wrote:hmm, actually i've just run the math and I think i am 2% crushable!!
looks like i overdid the avoidance > stam process a bit. :oops:

I don't want to derail the thread, but can someone doublecheck my math please? (from current armoury unbuffed,sig prob differs)
dodge: 15.63
parry: 17.07
block: 21.49
I'm not sure about the math on miss... def is 496 so :5+ (0.04x(496-350)) =8.76 ? however i've also seen 10+(0.04x(496-490)) and also 10.6+(0.04x(496-490)) .. not sure which one is correct.


Miss is just:
5 + (496-350 x 0.04) = 10.84
The easy option is to hover over defence in the armoury and it will tell you 5.84% from defence (plus the 5% base)

So:
Miss: 10.84
dodge: 15.63
parry: 17.07
block: 21.49
Holy shield: 35.33
=100.36%
So 2.04% crushable.

Kings and an agility pot will give you about 45 extra agility and hopefully make up the dodge to take you just over the limit.
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Postby SmurfZG » Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:04 am

Adin wrote:hmm, actually i've just run the math and I think i am 2% crushable!!
looks like i overdid the avoidance > stam process a bit. :oops:

I don't want to derail the thread, but can someone doublecheck my math please? (from current armoury unbuffed,sig prob differs)
dodge: 15.63
parry: 17.07
block: 21.49
I'm not sure about the math on miss... def is 496 so :5+ (0.04x(496-350)) =8.76 ? however i've also seen 10+(0.04x(496-490)) and also 10.6+(0.04x(496-490)) .. not sure which one is correct.

It's not really an issue, as i was definately uncrushable, i'll just have to revert to another blue or two instead of the recent +stam epic changes i've made :roll:

also WOOT @ elthar for tanking nightbane last night, gj!!


the correct math is 5+(0.04x(your_defense_skill - enemy_weapon_skill))

or in this case 5+(0.04x(496-350))=5+5.84=10.84 vs a lvl 70 mob
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