11 point talent "Maybe" Info

[Karock]

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... 0&sid=2000

We are also sympathetic to the notion that if Ret can't do insane burst damage, that the spec might need other tools to be viable in PvP. We're exploring this now, possibly though the missing 11-point Prot talent, possibly through other avenues. We'll let you know when we've made a decision here.

Might be a good thing (low CD interrupt?) or a pretty useless thing (snare?)

Either way what happened to "filling in" on our weak areas with it? :3

EDIT: What would you like to see that would both benefit us and help Ret paladin in pvp?

[fuzzygeek]

Yeah, the idea of putting a ret pvp talent 11 points into the prot tree is kind of meh. I'm betting that it'll be some kind of charge/intercept/intervene ability.

Edit: which I certainly wouldn't mind -- I miss Intervene dearly. Well, not as much anymore since threat is kind of lol in post-3.0.

One of Ret's big hangups is that they have no ability to close, and poor stuns. Making the 11 pointer in prot hits two items:

- ret can close and (in theory) stun
- prot has better mobility

[Elennira]

mortal strike, lol

[Mavrix]

I think it's a bit insulting to prot unless it's also very useful and good for us or makes us tankadins more viable in pvp.

[Maihes]

Coming from a Ret Pally (granted I quit PvPing early in s3) that is also big into Prot Pallying, a Charge / Intercept like ability would be useful for both, albeit I would prefer a short Snare, not a Stun at the end of it (like Feral Charge)

[Avias]

If it is a charge, then I will be happy. Even for prot.

[Caelia]

we had one in diablo 2! so why not get one for wow or just make it a teleport! it wouldnt be OP or anything with bubble and wings lol

[Fridmarr]

If it is a charge, then I will be happy. Even for prot.

Yeah, I was thinking of a charge too. Meanhwile we can't get a single target taunt because of homogenization.

I'm so used to not having a charge, I'm pretty unimpressed with getting one as our 11 pointer.

[Andryana]

To be honest, i don't want a charge.. i want something more creative and unique.. to have a charge might as well go play with my warrior.

[Grehn|Skipjack]

Something to help with mobility would benefit Ret, Prot, and Holy.

[Riekko]

if avenging wrath will cause forebearance to balance retri, i bet prot11 talent removes forebearance on 20 min cooldown

[Avias]

I am sure we can put our minds together and come up with Crusader's Charge!!

Crusader's Charge: requires 10 points in protection.
Charge your enemy causing X holy damage and taunting it for 3 seconds.
Same max range and warrior, but no minimum range

Thoughts?

Also usable in combat... maybe 15 seconds cooldown.

[Worldie]

To be honest, i don't want a charge.. i want something more creative and unique.. to have a charge might as well go play with my warrior.

What about a skill similar to a cow boy which brings the target close to....


nevermind.

[Sheherezade]

doesn't Tirion do a heroic leap to Arthas at the end of the DK start area?

[Fizzgig]

A strike type ability that has a silence/interrupt without a stun would be an okay talent. Also gives low leveling prot something else "fun" to hit.