Ret nerfed hard via unannounced hotfix.

[unlimit]

Playing around with my Pally alt, it looks like Command is doing physical damage as well. It's hitting for less than my white strikes now.

dumb change is suck.

[Fenris]

So now ret will do the exact same dmg of an arms warrior in a pvp setting.

Without ms,that's it.



Oh,joy....

[Io.Draco]

seal of coruption/vegeance is the new dps seal lolz

So now ret will do the exact same dmg of an arms warrior in a pvp setting.

Without ms,that's it.



Oh,joy.... Confused

Divine storm still heals , just don't dis it so fast , rets still are good in PvP

[Joanadark]

Divine Storm is now physical damage. That's about 50% reduction damage on bosses. Seal of Command also nerfed.

Thats a very minimal DPS loss in PvE due to debuffing, and the enchants and stats on PvE gear.

And you dont use SoC in PvE, ever.

These changes are 100% PvP related.

[caboom]

So now ret will do the exact same dmg of an arms warrior in a pvp setting.

Without ms,that's it.



Oh,joy....

and w/o charge, and stuns and snares ...

wow i can't believe that retarded 1 button mashing qq-ers won again ... just because they have no clue about their classes ><

[Levantine]

Divine Storm is now physical damage. That's about 50% reduction damage on bosses. Seal of Command also nerfed.

Thats a very minimal DPS loss in PvE due to debuffing, and the enchants and stats on PvE gear.

And you dont use SoC in PvE, ever.

These changes are 100% PvP related.

PRINCE MALCHEZAAR!

[Joanadark]

Seal of Vengeance

[Levantine]

That still do more than Command?

[caboom]

That still do more than Command?

i doubt it if u have haste gear, since command scales with haste now.

[Joanadark]

Yes. Alot. Bigger Judgements too. And Divine Storm can throw dots from it on multiple peripheral targets in an AE pack.

[Joanadark]

i doubt it if u have haste gear, since command scales with haste now.

except haste isnt that great.

[Sharlos]

Well it will make armour pen on non set gear more useful.

As for pve, tbh I doubt many pve ret paladins will be speccing for command, any situation where blood is unsuitable should be fine with vengeance.

How was command nerfed? Just dealing physical dmg or was its ap or sp coefficient changed, and if so which one and by how much?

[Bobness]

On the + Side

SOC, DS, CS all castable whilst silenced... if so I wonder what the next QQ will be about.

[Sharlos]

Kitability

[tbolt]

It sucks that they're getting nerfed, I did a few bgs and i didn't think they were OP. I beat most of them (as prot tho) from what I recall, casters on the other hand still chewed through me in a few seconds so I don't see why Ret is getting bumped down for doing what other classes have been doing for some time.