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A new way to burst our bubble

Postby Tahl » Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:57 pm

As if having it removed by mass dispel wasn't enough, check this Warlock talent:

Chaos Bolt - Sends a bolt of Chaotic Fire at the enemy, dealing 990-1256 Fire damage. Chaos Bolt cannot be resisted, and pierces through absorption and immunity mechanics. (51 point, 715 mana, 1.45 sec cast, 8 sec cooldown)

So in bgs, you'll get burst down to within an inch of your life (lol plate armor) and pop the bubble, crossing your fingers that you can get a few heals off before a priest notices you. Before you can get a single holy light off (2.5s) or even a flash of light (1.5s) a warlock could have this bolt headed your direction and another one ready before bubble wears off. Knowing locks that'll probably outdamage any healing you can do if it doesn't kill you immediately.

Everyone complains about the bubble, but is it really that powerful? All it's useful for is (a) removing dots and fear, (b) delaying your inevitable demise by 1.5-12 seconds while your enemies /dance with you, (c) jumping off cliffs and other silly tricks. And a five minutes cooldown means it's rarely available at the moment you need it in a battleground.

I predict it will be replaced with this ability in WotLK:

Cloak of Bubbles
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Envelopes the Paladin in cleansing bubbles which instantly remove all harmful spell effects. The next attack which would otherwise kill you will instead reduce you to 100hp for 5 seconds. When the effects ends the extra health will be lost. Cooldown: 5 minutes
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Postby moduspwnens » Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:07 pm

Still waiting on Paladin talents before all hope is abandoned.
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Postby Nottebella » Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:13 pm

It's the 51 point talent in the destro tree. You'll never see it. Ever.
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Postby Lore » Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:13 pm

So bubble before a chaos bolt will kill you :P
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Postby Worldie » Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:18 pm

moduspwnens wrote:Still waiting on Paladin talents before all hope is abandoned.


This


I really hope blizz is late on paladin talents cause they are preparing something gamebreaking which would make us proper tanks-healers-dps.
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Postby lusisia » Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:19 pm

Lore wrote:So bubble before a chaos bolt will kill you :P


Shit, I only use bubble as a debuff cleanser anyway. You never have time to do more than a FoL before some priest wipes it.

Sometimes people rely to heavily on the bubble ;)
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Postby guillex » Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:20 pm

Blizz is supposedly releasing pally info in August. Cross your fingers.
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Postby Baelor » Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:22 pm

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

You haven't seen paladin talents yet. You're worrying about a 51 destro talent, which means the lock won't be SL/SL and you can probably smash his face in as ret. You haven't seen any of the new paladin skills yet. And last but not least, it's got a cast time, so unless you're in a 1v1 situation, your partner can interrupt it.

STOP WORRYING ABOUT ALPHA TALENTS FROM OTHER CLASSES. This is not a cause for alarm. Go about your business, nothing to see here. Please, please, please wait until you have an entire picture of the new skills/talents for all classes and the alpha testing ends before you start claiming the end of the world is nigh.
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Postby Tahl » Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:35 pm

I'm sure that we will get some buffs also (right..? hello...?) Not claiming this ends everything and the sky is falling; I'm just pointing out the trend towards diminishing the effectiveness of one of our signature abilities. Apparently brief immunity every five minutes in the absence of a priest is considered so overpowered that they can't leave it as-is. They specifically chose to make this go through bubble and iceblock.
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Postby moduspwnens » Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:37 pm

Worldie wrote:I really hope blizz is late on paladin talents cause they are preparing something gamebreaking which would make us proper tanks-healers-dps.


Same here.
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Postby honorshammer » Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:45 pm

Baelor wrote:The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

You haven't seen paladin talents yet. You're worrying about a 51 destro talent, which means the lock won't be SL/SL and you can probably smash his face in as ret. You haven't seen any of the new paladin skills yet. And last but not least, it's got a cast time, so unless you're in a 1v1 situation, your partner can interrupt it.

STOP WORRYING ABOUT ALPHA TALENTS FROM OTHER CLASSES. This is not a cause for alarm. Go about your business, nothing to see here. Please, please, please wait until you have an entire picture of the new skills/talents for all classes and the alpha testing ends before you start claiming the end of the world is nigh.


While I agree with you, I would caution about waiting until the end of Alpha to be concerned. Alpha is the ONLY time substantial changes can be made. Once you get to Beta, it will take too much time and effort to make any fundamental changes.

I'm hoping for some great things, but the delay does mean they will have less time to test Paladins and receive/evaluate feedback.

I'm optimistic, but concerned.
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Postby Hankthetank » Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:25 pm

Guillex wrote:Blizz is supposedly releasing pally info in August. Cross your fingers.


Uh, yeah, when I said that in IRC, it was 100% made up. I dearly hope we have information before then. :)
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Postby Bobu » Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:37 pm

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Postby Dorvan » Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:39 pm

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Postby guillex » Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:45 pm

Hankthetank wrote:
Guillex wrote:Blizz is supposedly releasing pally info in August. Cross your fingers.


Uh, yeah, when I said that in IRC, it was 100% made up. I dearly hope we have information before then. :)


I kinda figured it was made up. :P

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