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Re: Relationships

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:22 am
by Paxen
While I'm no fan of the more roided out female bodybuilders...

Remember that bodybuilders on stage are cut, that is, they got almost no body fat. Body fat is what gives women curves, and is a large part of what makes them look feminine (this isn't the same as being fat, of course).

Find a bodybuilder in the offseason and she'll look a lot more natural. Even better, find a girl who competes in fitness, figure or the like in offseason form and there's good odds she'll be smoking hot.

Re: Relationships

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:34 am
by Sabindeus
Paxen wrote:While I'm no fan of the more roided out female bodybuilders...

Remember that bodybuilders on stage are cut, that is, they got almost no body fat. Body fat is what gives women curves, and is a large part of what makes them look feminine (this isn't the same as being fat, of course).

Find a bodybuilder in the offseason and she'll look a lot more natural. Even better, find a girl who competes in fitness, figure or the like in offseason form and there's good odds she'll be smoking hot.


man for some reason I feel like being contrary today.

Holley Mangold - Olympic Superheavyweight Lifter, US 2012 team

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I'd hit it

Re: Relationships

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:05 pm
by Arnock
For the record, bodybuilder != Olympic/power lifter.

Re: Relationships

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:17 pm
by Sabindeus
Arnock wrote:For the record, bodybuilder != Olympic/power lifter.


:|

That seems unfair. The post I was replying to said "competes in fitness" and lifters are *definitely* competitors in some sort of physical challenge for which they need to be fit even if they don't fit into the "bodybuilder" category.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:19 pm
by Nikachelle
It's kind of a touchy subject because it really depends on what you consider "fit".

I mean, Holley could probably bench press your car, but at 350 pounds it's very hard to consider her physically fit. So she's fit in one aspect (lifting) but unfit in others (running, for example). Same goes for body builders likely... don't they drop ridiculous amounts of weight just so that their muscles will show up during competition season? That's not particularly healthy.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:13 pm
by Amirya
But is it 350 pounds of more muscle, or more fat?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:44 pm
by Paxen
Sabindeus wrote:That seems unfair. The post I was replying to said "competes in fitness" and lifters are *definitely* competitors in some sort of physical challenge for which they need to be fit even if they don't fit into the "bodybuilder" category.


Hey, don't blame me for people calling their hobbies weird and unspecific names.

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Big picture: http://www.celebs101.com/gallery/Monica_Brant/215148/Monica_Brant_1.jpg

Same girl.

Nikachelle wrote:Same goes for body builders likely... don't they drop ridiculous amounts of weight just so that their muscles will show up during competition season? That's not particularly healthy.


Yup. See above.

Re: Relationships

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:58 pm
by Skye1013
Sabindeus wrote:Image

She might not have the super model look, but she's still a beautiful woman.

I personally would not "hit that" but that has nothing to do with her size, muscle, or fitness level.

Re: Relationships

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:13 pm
by Nikachelle
Amirya wrote:But is it 350 pounds of more muscle, or more fat?

Speaking from a purely superficial view... maybe 50% of both? (Realistically speaking... I have no idea. And I have no idea what kind of muscle mass you would even need to lift the over 500 pounds that she apparently can do.)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:50 pm
by Arnock
I never did understand why so many competitive lifters have so much bodyfat. One would think that, if you dropped 50lbs of fat, you'd be able too put that much more weight on the bar.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:57 pm
by Skye1013
Not sure I see the correlation between losing fat and being able to lift more. The amount you can lift is based on muscle strength, not the fat that is/isn't covering the muscles. Granted, if you have the muscles for that, I'm not sure how much more you have to be eating to still be obese.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:00 pm
by Arnock
If I weighed 500lbs, and could squat 500lbs, My legs are lifting a total of 1000lbs off of the ground.

If I lost 100lbs of fat, without loosing significant amounts of muscle mass, shouldn't I be able to squat 600? My legs would still be lifting 1000lbs, but 100lbs of that weight would have moved from my belly to the bar.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:31 pm
by Snake-Aes
Arnock wrote:If I weighed 500lbs, and could squat 500lbs, My legs are lifting a total of 1000lbs off of the ground.

If I lost 100lbs of fat, without loosing significant amounts of muscle mass, shouldn't I be able to squat 600? My legs would still be lifting 1000lbs, but 100lbs of that weight would have moved from my belly to the bar.

I can't claim accuracy until I go and talk to my friends who have that general shape, but that growth is part of how the body reacts and develops the muscles to lift that stuff. Body type counts a lot too: Some bodies never dissociate developing muscle mass and gaining fat.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:34 pm
by Fridmarr
In overly simplistic terms..

When you are supplying your body with excess calories, it's easier for your body to add muscle. On the flip side, if your body has decided that it needs to burn fat because it's not getting enough calories, then it's really hard to convince it to add muscle at the same time. In fact, your body will likely claim some muscle with the fat.

As a result, weight loss is a big enemy for power lifters.

Now there are weight classes in these competitions too, so for those they have to find some balance.

EDIT: Also, the mechanics involved don't really work that way. As you are going through your lift, various muscle groups are triggering, not all the weight you gain/lose is at the top of your body, so some groups don't have to deal with the extra or missing weight. For instance, you have to be able to secure and balance that squat bar on your shoulders with your upper body. To finish the left they need to be able to help lock out the weight, they aren't also lifting your ass, just the weight on top of them.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:44 pm
by Brekkie
Fridmarr wrote:In overly simplistic terms..

When you are supplying your body with excess calories, it's easier for your body to add muscle. On the flip side, if your body has decided that it needs to burn fat because it's not getting enough calories, then it's really hard to convince it to add muscle at the same time. In fact, your body will likely claim some muscle with the fat.

As a result, weight loss is a big enemy for power lifters.

Now there are weight classes in these competitions too, so for those they have to find some balance.


Beat me to it.

Building a ton of muscle requires the consumption of ridiculous amounts of calories. Not all of which will be used by the body the way you want them too, and which shedding would result in losing some of the muscle mass you are trying to build.

Thus, power lifters tend to be fat.


There is a reason why most special forces and triathlon competitors look pretty much like average dudes in decent, but unexceptional shape. But they will whoop your butt at pretty much every activity. People who are super fit are physically jacks of all trades, masters of none, if you will. Being exceptional in any one area like strength or endurance tends to come at a compromise of other areas of fitness.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:03 am
by Barathorn
What Brekkie and Fridmarr said is absolutely accurate. All I would add in simplistic terms is that for a body frame to lift the level of weight being talked about it does actually require being a certain size which is pretty much unobtainable in terms of muscle density most of the time [there are exceptions], hence the bodies natural reaction to 'bulk' up by using the energy sources as it see's fit.

Some of this can be countered by the use of supplements like Choline and Inositol [these may be spelt wrong as it is 18-23 years ago since I went through that stage of my life]but in general if you are lifting heavy weights you are likely to have a high BMI.

I still think Ewoks are relevant.

Re: Relationships

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:31 am
by Nikachelle
Woooohoooo! Leaving for Baltimore tonight for Kat's wedding tomorrow! So excited!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:34 pm
by Sabindeus
Nikachelle wrote:Woooohoooo! Leaving for Baltimore tonight for Kat's wedding tomorrow! So excited!


oh good old baltimore

say hi to the inner harbor for me

Re: Relationships

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:16 pm
by Amirya
Nikachelle wrote:Woooohoooo! Leaving for Baltimore tonight for Kat's wedding tomorrow! So excited!

Strangely, Nika's bouncing red panda avatar appears to be appropriate in this case.

Re: Relationships

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:46 pm
by Levantine
So in the past week I've fallen into a relationship completely by accident. I have no idea how it happened, but I caught myself sending a cute text message in reply to a cute text message and was all like, wait, when did this happen?

Re: Relationships

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:59 pm
by Amirya
Oh come on, give us details!

Re: Relationships

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:00 pm
by Levantine
Mmkay, so we've known each other for a while now. I'm not sure exactly how long but a while. Anyway, we started talking more over the past couple of weeks, and I end up going over to his place to watch a couple of movies. Next thing I know we're... not... watching movies anymore. I'm not really sure how it even happened to be honest, we just kind of fell into it. Had a talk last night after we went back to his after going out to a club and it was along the lines of:

Him: "So wait, where is this going?"
Me: "Huh?"
"Like... are we together?"
"I have no idea, are we?"
"I think we are"
"Cool"
"Ha~ You're my boyfriend~"
"Shut up"

He wouldn't because he enjoys making me blush and squirm, so I made him~

And that's mah story~

Re: Relationships

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:11 am
by Sagara
I guess that's the best way there ever could be.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:33 pm
by Aubade
Busiest birthday weekend ever!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:11 pm
by katraya
Birthday smirthday, I got married. Eagerly awaiting the photo of Nika, Invis, and I from my photographer.