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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Passionario » Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:16 am

Barathorn wrote:Don't get sucked in and over order for Dragons Maze though as the 3rd sets always tend to be under powered for the block.


Apocalypse was a good one. But other than that, I agree.
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Thalia » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:06 am

Yeah, we are right next to Uncle's Games, and we are at a mall.

So Uncle's holds events and pre-release events. Since we don't sell packs, just single we sponsor part of the prize pools. We have a great relationship with Uncle's staff in Redmond and with their blessing we started selling the singles, since they sell the packs and their main bosses don't ever want to dip their feet into the singles pool.

It's cool that we are in Bellevue, Washington, we are a stone's throw from Wizards of the Coast, so we get a lot of ex Wizard's employees bringing us some interesting cards.

For the Gatecrash Pre-release Uncle's ended up attracting about 275 players for their event, it was pretty big. And the designer of Dragon's Maze was there, was so cool! For Dragon's Maze we will also be sponsoring prize pool again, and Uncle's anticipates over 300 participants this time, so not sure how it is gonna go.



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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Aergis » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:26 am

Aweosme Bara!
I was looking into naya for a while, but mostly just play for funzies. Lately I've been on an evolve kick, corpsejack menaace + bioshift + evolving creatures, maybe throw in some flickering bigger creatures with ghostly flicker. Seems fun and bioshifting the counters around with a corpsejack leads to some pretty interesting results. Last time I tried it I ended up with a 100/80 creature that got completely shut down by damn fogbank...


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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Sabindeus » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:17 pm

lol dude i was joking around... seems like big aggro decks are all the rage nowadays... my roommate has been trying to make decks with unorthodox victory conditions for a while now and keeps getting stomped by creatures in his face.
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Barathorn » Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:34 pm

Sabindeus wrote:lol dude i was joking around... seems like big aggro decks are all the rage nowadays... my roommate has been trying to make decks with unorthodox victory conditions for a while now and keeps getting stomped by creatures in his face.


Creature decks are certainly benefiting from a lot of power creep :).

I am still confident in the UWR but am likely to be playing something rogue as we have a decent 'team' deck we have all worked on for the WMCQ's.

Aergis wrote:Aweosme Bara!
I was looking into naya for a while, but mostly just play for funzies. Lately I've been on an evolve kick, corpsejack menaace + bioshift + evolving creatures, maybe throw in some flickering bigger creatures with ghostly flicker. Seems fun and bioshifting the counters around with a corpsejack leads to some pretty interesting results. Last time I tried it I ended up with a 100/80 creature that got completely shut down by damn fogbank...


Sadly maintankadin got blocked at Microsoft, so I can't read anymore at work. :evil:


Ah well if you have any ideas or rules interactions you need help with just shout :).
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Sabindeus » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:19 pm

Aergis wrote:Aweosme Bara!
I was looking into naya for a while, but mostly just play for funzies. Lately I've been on an evolve kick, corpsejack menaace + bioshift + evolving creatures, maybe throw in some flickering bigger creatures with ghostly flicker. Seems fun and bioshifting the counters around with a corpsejack leads to some pretty interesting results. Last time I tried it I ended up with a 100/80 creature that got completely shut down by damn fogbank...


Sadly maintankadin got blocked at Microsoft, so I can't read anymore at work. :evil:


fog bank ftw!
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Gracerath » Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:16 pm

Dang. So my brother and his friend started playing again but they all play "fast magic" or basically, draw up to 7 every turn and you can lay down as many lands per turn as you want. When I started, that's how I first learned but then I learned how to play it the real way and haven't looked back. So sadly I can't play with them at all cause they have huge decks and I have standard 60 card decks. If I play fast magic with mine, I get stomped cause its not set up for that and if they play standard against mine, I poop all over them cause mine are better suited.

Just as well. My old dusty decks can't keep up with all the new mechanics.
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Aergis » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:37 pm

I know that overall Dragonmaze will be weak comparitively, but from a retail point of view I'm excited to have that many shocklands in a single set. Having 10+ rares top $10 means I want as many cases as possible...

How long before the price bottoms out to $5 or less?
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Barathorn » Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:29 am

Aergis wrote:I know that overall Dragonmaze will be weak comparitively, but from a retail point of view I'm excited to have that many shocklands in a single set. Having 10+ rares top $10 means I want as many cases as possible...

How long before the price bottoms out to $5 or less?


Probably not long as the demand will be lessened as the majority of competitive players will already have the full sets by now. This means you target groups will be new players and casual players so there could be an influx of shocklands sitting there going stagnant. Before Modern became a format you couldn't get rid of the shocklands for 2E each so I would be very careful from a retail point of view. The demand will be there but I expect it to be pretty low.

Gracerath wrote:Dang. So my brother and his friend started playing again but they all play "fast magic" or basically, draw up to 7 every turn and you can lay down as many lands per turn as you want. When I started, that's how I first learned but then I learned how to play it the real way and haven't looked back. So sadly I can't play with them at all cause they have huge decks and I have standard 60 card decks. If I play fast magic with mine, I get stomped cause its not set up for that and if they play standard against mine, I poop all over them cause mine are better suited.

Just as well. My old dusty decks can't keep up with all the new mechanics.


I have never played this way. It seems chaotic but then a lot of my friends used to play with no restrictions on card numbers and 250 card decks with 30 counterspells were commonplace. I didn't often play in that kind of game though as I wanted to play in competitions.

Its tricky, perhaps find some common ground somewhere if thats even possible?
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Skye1013 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:17 am

Do tournament decks have an upper limit now? I always thought it was just a minimum of 60 cards (no max) + 15 card sideboard. Or did you mean no limit to the number of each card on an individual basis (4+ "Counterspell", 4+ "Shock", etc.)?
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Alacia » Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:04 pm

Skye1013 wrote:Do tournament decks have an upper limit now? I always thought it was just a minimum of 60 cards (no max) + 15 card sideboard. Or did you mean no limit to the number of each card on an individual basis (4+ "Counterspell", 4+ "Shock", etc.)?

There's no upper limit, you just have to be able to shuffle it in a timely manner (3 minutes if memory serves). There were even some Battle of Wits decks around in tournaments last summer, back when we still had the tutor-ish effects from SoM block.
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Erendis » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:53 pm

I started playing again recently. Built a Red/Blue control deck on the cheap. I think the Sulfur Falls and Steam Vents are my most expensive cards.
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Barathorn » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:11 am

Alacia wrote:
Skye1013 wrote:Do tournament decks have an upper limit now? I always thought it was just a minimum of 60 cards (no max) + 15 card sideboard. Or did you mean no limit to the number of each card on an individual basis (4+ "Counterspell", 4+ "Shock", etc.)?

There's no upper limit, you just have to be able to shuffle it in a timely manner (3 minutes if memory serves). There were even some Battle of Wits decks around in tournaments last summer, back when we still had the tutor-ish effects from SoM block.


This pretty much, 60 cards minimum for constructed decks with your sideboard being 15 cards exactly. Each card other than basic land may only have 4 copies of that card per deck in all constructed formats except vintage which has a restricted list of 1 of cards you may use.

Erendis wrote:I started playing again recently. Built a Red/Blue control deck on the cheap. I think the Sulfur Falls and Steam Vents are my most expensive cards.


Entirely viable but not tier 1 [yet :)]. I have a soft spot for Red/Blue, won a lot of games playing counterhammer in the late 90's.

Counterflux is strong currently, even with Cavern of Souls and creatures being a big thing.
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Shoju » Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:15 am

I think the last time I played 'for real' was when Tolarian Academy was all the rage. I always played the same styles of decks. For a while, I was running Hidden Horror / Shallow Grave / Corpse Dance, which then led to Call of the Wild Living Death shenanigans.

I actually, for a while in the Tempest era, fielded a creatureless black Anvil of Bogardin / Megrim Deck that annihilated people. Did fairly well at the Origins tourney that year, cracking top 8, and then I met up with a crazy Counter deck that crushed my soul.

I've played Commander a few times since then, and My son wanted to learn how to play so I taught him, so I have a few constructed decks together, and I still have a "Black Sligh" deck that I'm sure would get decimated in the current environment of constructed.
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Heil » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:47 pm

It's nice to see a lot of familiar names from the forums be pretty into the MTG, I played for a bit in middle school circa 4th edition Ice Age and then basically quit when Exedous came out and it was time for HS. Anyways, I had saved all my cards and had an absolute BLAST going through all of them last year when I made the decision to sell them for extra cash, what with being a dad and all...

I was pretty shocked at how easy it was to find a professional buyer in Chicagoland and was even more lol'ed when the shop keepers had to go out and get more cash to pay me off. While I was doing, what I thought was the helpful thing, by sorting all of my cards by expansion and noting the rares, I did look into the state of the game and was pretty amazed at the Innistrad block. I swear, it took all my will power not to just give that store back all the money they paid me and buy back in.

I found the simplified Duels of the Plainswalkers games a lot of fun for some SERIOUS casual play, albeit ANYONE who played with the real cards will be srsly turned off by the no deck customization... I just wish the MTGO engine didn't look like such a throw back to 1998 internet, else I would prob be back into things in a big way.

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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Kai » Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:23 am

the mtgo client just makes me cry. the worst part is that they reworked it and the new one is even worse. cards randomly resize, HP and cards in hand numbers moved more to the side and made super small. Guess I am just used to the old one, but I don't know anyone that has anything good to say about the new one.

there's a few decent streams on twitch. the best probably being michael jacob (google for darkestmage twitch), streaming an average of 8h per day or so (yep, crackhead), playing various constructed formats and drafts/sealeds. although if you are not somewhat up to date, could be problematic following that. the coverage from the big tournaments is also quite good now, at least not comparable to what it was 10 years ago. lots of stuff on youtube, under 'magicprotour' I believe.
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Kai » Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:24 am

the mtgo client just makes me cry. the worst part is that they reworked it and the new one is even worse. cards randomly resize, HP and cards in hand numbers moved more to the side and made super small. Guess I am just used to the old one, but I don't know anyone that has anything good to say about the new one.

there's a few decent streams on twitch. the best probably being michael jacob (google for darkestmage twitch), streaming an average of 8h per day or so (yep, crackhead), playing various constructed formats and drafts/sealeds. although if you are not somewhat up to date, could be problematic following that. the coverage from the big tournaments is also quite good now, at least not comparable to what it was 10 years ago. lots of stuff on youtube, under 'magicprotour' I believe.
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Sabindeus » Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:09 pm

Barathorn wrote:
Erendis wrote:I started playing again recently. Built a Red/Blue control deck on the cheap. I think the Sulfur Falls and Steam Vents are my most expensive cards.


Entirely viable but not tier 1 [yet :)]. I have a soft spot for Red/Blue, won a lot of games playing counterhammer in the late 90's.

Counterflux is strong currently, even with Cavern of Souls and creatures being a big thing.


Oh thank god. Back in the day (like high school) I ran a red/blue counterburn deck and I loved it to bits. Nowadays that seems really difficult to pull off. Since I'm not intimately familiar with all the cards available in Standard, what stuff would you recommend for building that kind of deck nowadays?
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Barathorn » Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:01 am

Sab,

I have seen this post and haven't forgotten about you, I will post a budget list and a money doesn't matter list when possible!

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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Barathorn » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:51 am

Funtimes Budget FNM List.

4 Pillar of Flame
4 Searing Spear
3 Izzet Charm
3 Think Twice
2 Rolling Temblor
2 Unsummon
4 Syncopate
2 Dissipate
1 Devils Play
1 Runechanters Pike

1 Niv-Mizzit Dracogenius
2 Izzet Staticaster
2 Hypersonic Dragon
4 Auger of Bolas

4 Izzet Guildgate
11 Mountain
10 Island

Tier 2-3 Competitive

4 Snapcaster Mage
3 Auger of Bolas
4 Boras Reckoner
2 Thundermaw Hellkite

4 Pillar of Flame
4 Searing Spear
2 Izzet Charm
2 Bonfire of the Damned
4 Think Twice
3 Syncopate
1 Dissipate
1 Counterflux
1 Devils Play

4 Steam Vents
4 Sulphur Cliffs
2 Isolated Lighthouse
1 Cavern of Souls
7 Mountains
7 Islands
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Sabindeus » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:58 am

Comparing your lists to the deck I built, it looks like I'm using shitty shitty counterspells and too many of them. And card draw is more necessary than I ever pegged it. Also I am bad at creatures. :x

thanks dude I appreciate it!!
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Sabindeus » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:02 am

QUestion: I don't understand Counterflux exactly... why is it good?
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Alacia » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:02 am

Sabindeus wrote:QUestion: I don't understand Counterflux exactly... why is it good?

In Standard, it's pretty much just an uncounterable counterspell. The Overload might have some application in other formats (such as against Storm), but there's generally better alternatives there.
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Passionario » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:46 am

Sabindeus wrote:QUestion: I don't understand Counterflux exactly... why is it good?


It's a Last Word that costs 3 mana. What's not to like?
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Re: Anyone play MTG?

Postby Barathorn » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:43 am

Sabindeus wrote:Comparing your lists to the deck I built, it looks like I'm using shitty shitty counterspells and too many of them. And card draw is more necessary than I ever pegged it. Also I am bad at creatures. :x

thanks dude I appreciate it!!


No worries, I don't think either list is amazing but should be ok for funtimes at an average competitive level [FNM or local store event] but I wouldn't take them to a GP Trial or anything of that level or above.

We have a PTQ and a WMCQ this coming weekend. Our entire team has no idea what to play that we enjoy. It is looking like most are playing Reanimator Junk or Bant Hexproof. The only other option is Esper Control which I don't really want to play.

This is what I think I am going to sleeve up.

4 x Stromkirk Noble
4 x Rakdos Cackler
4 X Burning Tree Emmissary
4 x Lightning Mauler
4 x Flinthoof Boar
4 x Boros Reckoner
4 x Hellrider
3 x Ghor Clan Rampager

4 Searing Spear
4 Brimstone Volley

4 Stomping Ground
4 Rootbound Crag
13 Mountain

Very aggressive.
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