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Re: Walking Dead Episode "The Killer Within"

Postby Flex » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:33 pm

econ21 wrote:
Flex wrote:The women can't be strong without a man. The minorities are either useless background characters (RIP T-Dogg) or simply yes men to the white people.


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Guardian Angel to a white lady and has shown no character development beyond a stink eye of doom, hell they don't even let her really communicate in fully formed thoughts and sentences. If they expanded upon her "pets" with a flashback history it would do wonders for her story, but nope, can't have that. I bet she'll open up when she comes in contact with a man.

Not to mention that Andrea who morphed to a Stepford Wife to the Governor after becoming a pretty decent asskicker in season 2, then again she gravitates towards men in power and basically becomes what they want.

Now take a look at two characters created for the series. T-Dog and Daryl. Daryl has been a great character from pretty much the start. He is determined, caring, and shows actual character evolution and is a more natural leader than Shane or Rick have shown. T-Dog's character arc can pretty much be summed up with "bald black guy." A body for when you need to fight zombies.
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Re: Walking Dead Episode "The Killer Within"

Postby Shoju » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:13 pm

I do have a distaste for the way they are handling michonne, but I haven't read the comics to see if it is much different. I just know that at this point, she is the "crazy sane person" that woodbury doesn't like.

Speaking of Woodbury, I'm completely baffled by that "community". I'm curious to see where it goes, but at this point, I'm just unsure of what to think about this community that has this illusion of freedom under marshal law. The scientist / dr guy seems to be absolutely crazy.
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Re: Walking Dead Episode "The Killer Within"

Postby econ21 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:12 am

Flex wrote:... Michonne has shown no character development


Oh, if you meant Michonne is not a strong character in the literary sense, being well developed and interesting etc., then yes, I would agree with you. I thought you meant strong as in physically and/or emotionally strong. Not having read the comic books, I was appalled when Michonne appeared at the end of season 2, as the character just seemed so ridiculously, well, comic book in concept. What I've liked about the TV series is that it managed to immerse me in a post-apocalyptic world, which - while essentially absurd if you think about it (zombie apocalypse) - nonetheless got me to suspend disbelief. A katana wielding character with two zombie pets... ugh. Seeing Rick put on a cape and wear his underpants over his trousers would have been less immersion breaking. More generally, Season 3 seems to be making the zombies less of a threat and introducing more comic book violence, with the group one-shotting them with ease and generally tearing through them like a hot axe through butter. Still, Woodbury seems a formidable new threat for Rick's tiny group.

On an unrelated matter - for anyone interested in the Walking Dead world, I'd recommend the Walking Dead adventure game by Telltale games. They just released the final episode this week. If you think of it as an interactive movie or graphic novel, rather than a game, then you might get a lot of enjoyment from it. I've never been so affected emotionally by a computer game - thanks to wonderful voice acting and story telling, it sets up an incredibly strong surrogate father-daughter relationship. There are parts in it that make "The Killer Within" TV episode feel like light entertainment. The game is 50% off on Steam at the moment. It's only 12 hours of game time, but it's a very moving and memorable - reviews talking about it as the game of the year are not over-hyping it. It's better than the TV series and I am addicted to the TV series.
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Re: Walking Dead Episode "The Killer Within"

Postby Flex » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:56 am

Well Season 3 is months after the end of season 2 so assume everyone took a level in badass during those months on the road and zombies are rather easily killed with coordination, just when they're surprised and go stupid do humans fail against them.

I also picked up the game on the Steam sale. I'll admit that the first half of Episode 3, starting episode 4 tonight, was emotionally draining. Episode 2 was a bit meh, 3 months time seemed way too short for that storyline to be used.
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Re: Walking Dead Episode "The Killer Within"

Postby Flex » Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:31 pm

Kill a black guy, replace him with the prisoner. Kill the prisoner replace him with the black guy from the comics. There can be only one.
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Re: Walking Dead Episode "The Killer Within"

Postby Shoju » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:17 am

Flex wrote:Kill a black guy, replace him with the prisoner. Kill the prisoner replace him with the black guy from the comics. There can be only one.


I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of this. Man... What the heck is their problem with minority men on the show?
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Re: Walking Dead Episode "The Killer Within"

Postby Thalia » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:51 am

Shoju wrote:
Flex wrote:Kill a black guy, replace him with the prisoner. Kill the prisoner replace him with the black guy from the comics. There can be only one.


I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of this. Man... What the heck is their problem with minority men on the show?


is Glen not a minority? he's my fave too, if something happens to Glen I don't want to watch anymore!
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Re: Walking Dead Episode "The Killer Within"

Postby Flex » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:00 am

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Shoju wrote:
Flex wrote:Kill a black guy, replace him with the prisoner. Kill the prisoner replace him with the black guy from the comics. There can be only one.


I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of this. Man... What the heck is their problem with minority men on the show?


is Glen not a minority? he's my fave too, if something happens to Glen I don't want to watch anymore!


Glen is also a developed character. Something T-Dogg and Oscar never got to be, I think we learned more about Oscar in his few episodes than we ever learned about T-Dogg. Tyrese, since he is a comic book import, should actually get development and stick around for once.
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Re: Walking Dead Episode "The Killer Within"

Postby Shoju » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:40 am

The White Guy also tried to feed Glen to a Zombie.

Just Sayin'.
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Re: Walking Dead Episode "The Killer Within"

Postby Flex » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:49 am

On the positive: I am glad they seem to be skipping the entire Michonne rape subplot that happened in the comic.
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Re: Walking Dead Episode "The Killer Within"

Postby Thalia » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:43 am

I was on Trade 3 and I was so mad because I sold out of 3 at the store!

Lol,

I reorder Walking Dead Trades, which are 1-17 right now once a week...and I order about 2-3 each. Funny thing is the ongoing comics don't really sell as much. We sell about 5-6 per month....compared to my little pony which sold out of 25 in two days :lol:
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Re: Walking Dead Episode "The Killer Within"

Postby Shoju » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:09 pm

Flex wrote:On the positive: I am glad they seem to be skipping the entire Michonne rape subplot that happened in the comic.


Yeah... that would not have played well I think. The maggie thing was close enough to show he is just a creepy dirty bastard.
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Re: Walking Dead Episode "The Killer Within"

Postby Fivelives » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:55 pm

Is there anywhere to stream the show online, for free? I've a friend who's been dealing with a family crisis, and she's missed the last 3 or 4 episodes. It's available free through our cable provider on-demand, but she doesn't have a cable box, so doesn't have on-demand access. She lives 2 1/2 hours away from me, so she also can't just pop over and watch it on her days off from work (although it'd be nice to see her - haven't seen her since around February or thereabouts).

Hulu says it's available at amctv.com, but neither of us can find a full episode there. Free is definitely a must - she's not working right now (taking care of her sick father), so buying the episodes on itunes/vudu/etc isn't really an option.
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