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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby Nooska » Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:31 am

Thank you very much for the write up.

Its very nice to read a - I'm tempted to call it dispassionate (please don't take offense) report, rather than half thoughtout news reports based on rumor and hearsay.

Is it a secret what you do and why you are in libya (or rather, can you tell "us" (me)) - I haven't followed the non theorycrafting forums long enough to know.
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby Brekkie » Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:48 am

I am currently a Marine Security Guard.
I am not currently in Libya, but have contacts there, and at other hotspots.
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby bldavis » Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:53 am

Brekkie wrote:I am currently a Marine Security Guard.
I am not currently in Libya, but have contacts there, and at other hotspots.

arent you in Suadia Arabia?
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby Brekkie » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:04 am

bldavis wrote:
Brekkie wrote:I am currently a Marine Security Guard.
I am not currently in Libya, but have contacts there, and at other hotspots.

arent you in Suadia Arabia?


Not currently.
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby bldavis » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:14 am

oh...
nm then :)
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby Brekkie » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:47 am

My first MSG tour of duty was in Saudi Arabia. That's where I was stationed when the Bin Laden raid happened.

I'm elsewhere now though.
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby bldavis » Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:04 am

yeah i remember you saying you were in Saudi Arabia at one point
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby Brekkie » Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:54 am

From: Cross, Alex Maj OLA, LA-41B
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:55 PM
To: Cross, Alex Maj OLA, LA-41B
Subject: Marines in Libya and Egypt


Ladies and Gentlemen-

The following information is provided regarding Marine involvement in the recent actions in Egypt and Libya:

Egypt:
-The Ambassador did not impose restrictions on weapons or weapons status on the Marine Corps Embassy Security Group (MCESG) detachment. The MCESG Marines in Cairo were allowed to have live ammunition in their weapons. The Ambassador and Regional Security Officer have been completely and appropriately engaged with the security situation. Reports of Marines not being able to have their weapons loaded per direction from the Ambassador are not accurate.
- The Marine Corps does not establish Rules of Engagement (ROE). Nonetheless, ROE is classified and release of that information would jeopardize the Marines and U.S. interests. Any further inquiry should be directed to the State Department, since Marine security guards report to the ambassador not to a military commander.
-As reported in open sources, approximately 2000 personnel were protesting outside the U.S. Embassy and six individuals entered Embassy grounds. The Marines quickly took control of these six individuals and subsequently turned them over to local security officials.
-There were no Marines injured in this, or other actions in Cairo.
-There are no Marine dependents in Cairo.

Libya:
-Contrary to open source reporting, there are no Marines currently stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli, or the Consulate in Benghazi.
-There were no Marines killed in the attack on the Consulate in Benghazi.

Yemen:
-The American Embassy in Sana'a, Yemen has a MCESG reinforced with a Marine security force. Due to operational security, we are not at liberty to provide additional details at this time.

Marine Corps Embassy Security Guards (MCESG):
Embassy security in Tripoli and the consulate in Benghazi fall under the Regional Security Officer with the State Department. The U.S. maintains over 285 diplomatic facilities worldwide. MCESG provides 152 security detachments provide internal security at designated U.S. diplomatic and consular facilities in order to prevent the compromise of classified material vital to the national security of the United States. Perimeter security is the responsibility of the host nation police/security forces. AMEMB Tripoli does not have a MCESG detachment. Typically, when a new embassy is established, it takes time to grow a new MCESG detachment. In coordination with the State Department, there was discussion about establishing a detachment in Tripoli sometime in the next five years. Overall, the plan is to grow the number of MCESG detachments worldwide to 173. The size of a MCESG detachment depends on the size of the Embassy and the security situation on the ground. They normally range anywhere from 5-20+ Marines in size. MCESG can, and have, provided security at Consulates as well as Embassies. For example, Marines guard the US Consulate in Hong Kong and, in the past, have guarded the US Consulate in addition to the Embassy in Haiti. The decision as to which consulates receive this augmented security lies with the State Department. State identifies its requirements and DOD/Marines work to provide it. A U.S. Ambassador serving in an unstable region can/will normally have a security detail provided by the State Departments Diplomatic Security Corps. State has agents specially trained to provide personal security details (similar to the Secret Service). Stephanie Hoostal at the State Liaison Office (B-330) can be reached at 6-4542 if you have questions specific to the State Dept.

Fleet Anti-Terrorism Support Team (FAST):
A FAST platoon deployed to Libya yesterday (12 Sep 12) to provide security for the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli. Established in 1987, FAST platoons provide a limited-duration, expeditionary security force to protect vital naval and national assets. FAST companies maintain forward-deployed platoons at various naval commands around the globe and possess U.S.-based alert forces capable of rapidly responding to unforeseen contingencies worldwide. FAST is not designed to provide a permanent security force for installations. FAST platoons are primarily designed to conduct defensive combat operations, military security operations, and rear area security operations in response to approved requests in support of geographic combatant and fleet commanders. When deployed to reinforce embassies with existing MCESG detachments, FAST platoons will customarily provide an outer cordon of security inside the embassy compound, while MCESG Marines maintain security of the chancery proper, and host nation police/security forces provide an outer cordon of security beyond embassy grounds.

NOTE: Although a Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) has traditionally been forward deployed to the Mediterranean (2.5 MEU forward deployment-1 x east coast MEU to the Med, 1 x west coast MEU to the Pacific, and the 31st MEU forward based out of Okinawa, Japan), there is currently no MEU presence in the Mediterranean. The Marine Corps currently maintains a 1.5 MEU presence forward deployed. We currently have the 24th MEU from the east coast deployed to the Persian Gulf, a west coast MEU is conducting work-ups for deployment, and the 31st MEU is operating from Okinawa.

Please see the attachments for more information on FAST or MCESG. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact your Marine Corps Liaison Office in RHOB-B324.

Respectfully,
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby Shoju » Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:38 am

Thank you Brekkie. Your information is invaluable.
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby Malthrax » Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:39 am

Thanks, Brekkie. That was far more clear, insightful, and informative than anything I've seen in the media (on either side of the political spectrum) so far.
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby Brekkie » Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:37 am

The statements made in this thread represent my personal opinions based on open-source information only. They do not represent the official stance of the US Department of State, United States Marine Corps, or any other element of the US Government unless specifically indicated.
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby sahiel » Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:11 am

Very good to read such a factual write up, I have some former State Dept. colleagues stationed in the area and thankfully they're all okay, but even they have a hard time getting exact facts as to what happened. I must add, that of all the US military I've known in my time at State those on Embassy Security were the ones I personally felt safest with in difficult situations, knowing that somewhere Marines and the rest of the military are fighting isn't quite as immediate as having the RSO and marines brief you personally where to hide if there's a rocket attack on your Embassy and mention that they'll be fighting off any attackers whilst you're safe.

Not sure if it means quite as much from a non US citizen but I for one have and always will be eternally grateful to the Marines for the times they protected me and for those they'll protect in the future.
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby Arnock » Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:26 pm

Were the Libyan guards at the consulate local militia/police or private contracted security? Or a combination of both?
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby Brekkie » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:20 pm

Arnock wrote:Were the Libyan guards at the consulate local militia/police or private contracted security? Or a combination of both?


To be quite honest I'm not entirely sure how best to describe them. I think the closest allegory is the Auxiliaries in the legions of ancient Rome. They are locals, but are directly employed, trained, equipped, and managed by the Americans. If they serve the United States loyally for 20 years, they earn an immigration visa to the US for themselves and their immediately family.

They aren't police, or any form of local institution. They are employees of the Embassy/Consulate. They just happen to be locals. This has a few administrative advantages for us:
-we can pay them less.
-if they shoot someone, it is easier to brush under the rug, whereas if an American shot someone it would be a guaranteed international incident.
-they are more expendable. (brutal, but true)
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby Dantriges » Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:20 am

I wonder if them being more familiar with the local culture and being native speakers of the local language could be a factor, too? Could help prevent miscommunications and I could imagine that the State Department considers stuff like that, too, at diplomatic US installations. No idea how much the guard personnel interacts with the locals but I could imagine that they are approached with a question or so, too, during normal operations. Like asking for directions or so.

But I have no idea what the day to day at a consulate orembassy is like.
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby degre » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:35 am

Apparently, there is not even a Consulate in Bengazi
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/benghazi.html
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby Fridmarr » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:43 am

I'm too distracted by that hilarious picture (assuming no serious injury) to read any of that.
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby Shoju » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:39 am

degre wrote:Apparently, there is not even a Consulate in Bengazi
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/benghazi.html


Oh dear god. One of "those guys". I used to work with someone like that. I stopped listening when he told me that he could always tell if the FBI, or the CIA had stopped in at work to make sure he was still being "a good citizen" They would leave a penny on his desk. Face up was one, Face up was the other.

That dumb son of @#()%&* got visits from that point on every day, sometimes multiple times a day. The bank across the street was a great source of pennies.

He blamed it on his newest piece of digital vomit, some piece about how the new Noise barriers along I-71 in Columbus were actually the walls to use Columbus as a Prison camp, quartered off into sections when Clinton enacted the Police State, and put all the sheep in their pens.

He's a loon.
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby Brekkie » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:26 am

degre wrote:Apparently, there is not even a Consulate in Bengazi
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/benghazi.html


Here is the link to the Department of State web site, with a complete list of All U.S. embassies, consulates, and diplomatic missions world wide. http://www.usembassy.gov/ There is one in Libya, obviously in Tripoli. And I will state right now that I have that Embassy page saved and captured, in case someone decides to bury this by faking Benghazi in for a while.

To further bolster this fact, Here is Google Maps of Benghazi Libya. Delete Benghazi Libya from the search window, and type the word EMBASSY or CONSULATE there. Because one does not exist in Benghazi, it will throw you to an alternative location near you. Here is the Wikipedia list, no doubt soon to be faked, it will happen fast here Wont last long and if any fakes get thrown in, well, there are TONS of lists out there, and I will just snag another. They can't bury this lie.


It must be a conspiracy; it's not on Google Maps OR Wikipedia!

p.s. "Deep Water Horizon Destroyed by Space-Based Laser", and "Mossad Fakes Tsunami to Disguise Fukushima Nuclear Attack"...
Is this guy for real?

I like how he claims to be a former NSA Agent.
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby Shoju » Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:09 am

Brekkie wrote:
degre wrote:Apparently, there is not even a Consulate in Bengazi
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/benghazi.html


Here is the link to the Department of State web site, with a complete list of All U.S. embassies, consulates, and diplomatic missions world wide. http://www.usembassy.gov/ There is one in Libya, obviously in Tripoli. And I will state right now that I have that Embassy page saved and captured, in case someone decides to bury this by faking Benghazi in for a while.

To further bolster this fact, Here is Google Maps of Benghazi Libya. Delete Benghazi Libya from the search window, and type the word EMBASSY or CONSULATE there. Because one does not exist in Benghazi, it will throw you to an alternative location near you. Here is the Wikipedia list, no doubt soon to be faked, it will happen fast here Wont last long and if any fakes get thrown in, well, there are TONS of lists out there, and I will just snag another. They can't bury this lie.


It must be a conspiracy; it's not on Google Maps OR Wikipedia!

p.s. "Deep Water Horizon Destroyed by Space-Based Laser", and "Mossad Fakes Tsunami to Disguise Fukushima Nuclear Attack"...
Is this guy for real?

I like how he claims to be a former NSA Agent.



Yup. He's nuts. here you go. Another crazy file for you.


crazy guy I used to work with wrote:PRECAUTIONARY YELLOW ALERT:
MASSIVE MILITARY CONVOY SIGHTED

IN CHARLESTON, WV

by [name redacted to keep his crazy self from finding me posting about him. He's crazy enough to do something like that.]
7-23-11

Aproximately 6:00 pm, EST, this evening I received an email from a highly reliable intelligence source stating that an extremely large military vehicle convoy was turning off from US Route 79 onto US Route 64, headed west through Charleston, West Virginia. It was related that the individual witnessed 40 to 50 armored vehicles and he never saw the end of the convoy. He estimated the convoy to be about 5 miles long. All the soldiers appeared to be wearing full battle gear. He related that 50 caliber guns were clearly visible. The source believed the activity was related to something more than just a routine troop and equipment movement. He was so concerned about the unusual nature of the convoy that he immediately reported the sighting.

Due to the increasing number of military vehicle movement sightings across the country and even here locally over the past several weeks, there seems to be some kind of nationwide military exercise underway at this time. I received a report today that 2 Hum-Vs and 2 large amphibious-type-looking vehicles, which had the words "US Army Fire Department" curiously displayed on their sides, were sighted at a gas station at SR 30 and SR 13 this morning. The past 2 weeks I have received local reports of large military trucks being sighted with soldiers in full battle gear inside the cabs. One day last week military rifle cases were seen being loaded onto military trucks at the Mansfield Lahm Airport. Evidently, something akin to a NLE, National Level Exercise, possibly, may be in the process of being conducted.

As Europe is free-falling into economic chaos with the euro tilting on the edge of complete collapse, Oslo, Norway having been bombed today with over 80 shot dead by a gunman with a machine gun immediately after the explosion from inside and underneath a government building, the Illuminati may be moving to incite panic in the European public in order for them to run to the "government" to "save them" while simultaneously diverting their attention from the imploding economy. Interestingly, Lindsey Williams had said that his Illuminati sources informed him that once the "euro goes", the American dollar would not be far behind, perhaps only a matter of a couple weeks. If the euro is right now in the process of crumbling, the dollar would follow close on its heels by only 2 weeks or so, according to Williams' sources.

However, here's another interesting scenario. Bernake has been threatening another "end of the world" happening if the national debt ceiling isn't raised by August 2nd. These are the same kinds of threats we heard back in 2008 if the banks weren't bailed out of their crisis. In fact, if you recall, there were out-in-the-open threats to congressional members of "MARTIAL LAW" occuring if the bailouts weren't given. Today is July 23, only a little over a week away from August 2nd. It may be that the military is being put on national emergency alert just in case the national debt ceiling is not raised. It is possible that the large military vehicle and troop movements that are being reported all over the country have to do with possibly setting-up regional "MARTIAL LAW" if both houses of congress fail to vote for the raising of the national debt limit. The last I saw today, the talks again were stalled. After all, if the debt ceiling isn't raised, the fed won't be able to inject its massively inflationary QE2 into the expiring economy. All of a sudden the picture seems to be getting, potentially, rather dark. (No wonder military personnel have been reportedly telling their relatives and friends for over a year to stock-up on plenty of food, water and survival supplies.) Things might be about to get rather nasty. Secure all hatches.

The below link is to an interesting video with even more interesting comments attached. Please send in reports of any sightings of large military movements you might witness. Thanks for your help in this time of crisis.


And here is another crazy that I was introduced to by the guy i used to work with

weatherwars.info

the front page of the site wrote:Others [terrorists] are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves... So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations...It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our [counterterrorism] efforts." Secretary of Defense William Cohen at an April 1997 counterterrorism conference sponsored by former Georgia Senator Sam Nunn.
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby Brekkie » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:12 pm

Not to make this political, but why is it that I never see crackpots like that with a liberal ideology?

You never see "WE NEED UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE NOW BECAUSE THE ILLUMINATI WANT TO KILL US ALL WITH INFECTIOUS DISEASES!"
or...
"WE HAVE TO LEGALIZE ALL THE IMMIGRANTS IMMEDIATELY SO THAT THEY CAN JOIN OUR MILITIA TO DEFEND AGAINST THE IMMINENT INVASION OF CANADA!"

What's up with that?
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:22 pm

Paranoia and fear of others make it hard to have socialist leanings, I guess.
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby Blackharon » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:41 pm

Brekkie wrote:"WE HAVE TO LEGALIZE ALL THE IMMIGRANTS IMMEDIATELY SO THAT THEY CAN JOIN OUR MILITIA TO DEFEND AGAINST THE IMMINENT INVASION OF CANADA!"

What's up with that?


Obviously it's unbelievable because you'd never see the invasion coming!
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby Malthrax » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:43 pm

Brekkie wrote:Not to make this political, but why is it that I never see crackpots like that with a liberal ideology?

You never see "WE NEED UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE NOW BECAUSE THE ILLUMINATI WANT TO KILL US ALL WITH INFECTIOUS DISEASES!"
or...
"WE HAVE TO LEGALIZE ALL THE IMMIGRANTS IMMEDIATELY SO THAT THEY CAN JOIN OUR MILITIA TO DEFEND AGAINST THE IMMINENT INVASION OF CANADA!"

What's up with that?


The liberal crackpots are too busy "occupying" things to write ideological blogs.
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Re: Libya: US Consulate destroyed, Ambassador slain

Postby Fridmarr » Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:25 pm

Brekkie wrote:Not to make this political, but why is it that I never see crackpots like that with a liberal ideology?

You never see "WE NEED UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE NOW BECAUSE THE ILLUMINATI WANT TO KILL US ALL WITH INFECTIOUS DISEASES!"
or...
"WE HAVE TO LEGALIZE ALL THE IMMIGRANTS IMMEDIATELY SO THAT THEY CAN JOIN OUR MILITIA TO DEFEND AGAINST THE IMMINENT INVASION OF CANADA!"

What's up with that?


Rose tinted glasses perhaps?

In all seriousness, the views expressed by these people are so crazy and all over the place that it is difficult to lump them into conservative or liberal, but to that end if you want to lump any "ZOMG big brother government conspiracy causing the end of the world" as conservative, then wouldn't those with the "ZOMG big corporate conspricay ending the world" qualify as liberal? I don't think you are going to find a shortage of either of those.
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