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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Nooska » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:03 am

Is it legal for an institution to proselytize to "helpless" people, even if they ask you to stop (ie complain)?
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:47 am

I'm currently enjoying watching the GOP devour itself.

Also love how FOX News replaced all references to a Shutdown with Slimdown.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby cdan » Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:19 am

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cdan wrote:In some cases the networks have deals where they pay the hospital a fee to only show their channels. The networks then add the bed numbers at the hospitals plus a "markup" for visitor stats depending on the hospital size and city, etc. to their audience stats for advertisers.

Other times cable providers and similar offer discounts for installing and providing their service if the hospital limits the channels to a certain range, etc.

I can understand that where a company is trying to secure additional ad income through exclusives, but Fox News is marketing an ideology - one that people hopped up on morphine might even find believable. That's not right.


Advertisers love Fox News viewers. They're already brain washed so whatever you want to pour into the empty space where rational thought used to be you can do it with ease.

Although I must admit that when I was channel hopping last night I noticed that O'Reilly, commander in chief or Loonville, was telling the GOP to stop being stupid. He said the proper way to deal with Obamacare was to face the facts that the argument had been lost, that the law existed as per the majority approval of the American public and only and election win and a full repeal would suffice. Shocking.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby KysenMurrin » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:09 am

Klaudandus wrote:I'm currently enjoying watching the GOP devour itself.

Also love how FOX News replaced all references to a Shutdown with Slimdown.

Someone noted on Twitter that a random "healthcare customer" Fox interviewed just happened to be the head of an anti-Obamacare campaign group.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:56 am

cdan wrote:
Koatanga wrote:
cdan wrote:In some cases the networks have deals where they pay the hospital a fee to only show their channels. The networks then add the bed numbers at the hospitals plus a "markup" for visitor stats depending on the hospital size and city, etc. to their audience stats for advertisers.

Other times cable providers and similar offer discounts for installing and providing their service if the hospital limits the channels to a certain range, etc.

I can understand that where a company is trying to secure additional ad income through exclusives, but Fox News is marketing an ideology - one that people hopped up on morphine might even find believable. That's not right.


Advertisers love Fox News viewers. They're already brain washed so whatever you want to pour into the empty space where rational thought used to be you can do it with ease.

Although I must admit that when I was channel hopping last night I noticed that O'Reilly, commander in chief or Loonville, was telling the GOP to stop being stupid. He said the proper way to deal with Obamacare was to face the facts that the argument had been lost, that the law existed as per the majority approval of the American public and only and election win and a full repeal would suffice. Shocking.


In the meantime you can buy this totally authentic collectible 9/11 coin with a popup engraving of the WTC, totally made out of melted gold from those buildings! Be patriotic!
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Koatanga » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:11 pm

I wake up this morning to news of shot fired in DC. Is it bad of me that my first reaction was "Tea Party nutjob"? On the one hand it could be anyone, but on the other hand, the bleeding-heart liberals are less likely to be armed.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Melathys » Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:18 pm

This sums up American politics for me.

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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:02 am

Melathys wrote:This sums up American politics for me.

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I normally vote for the lesser of evils =P
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Sagara » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:37 am

Klaudandus wrote:
Melathys wrote:This sums up American politics for me.


I normally vote for the lesser of evils =P


Wait, Satan runs in the U.S. Elections????
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:28 pm

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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Melathys » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:34 pm

Klaudandus wrote:I normally vote for the lesser of evils =P


and that's the problem I have with american voters. they vote for the lesser evil when there might actually be a good candidate who just isn't republican or democrat.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:44 pm

i'd -if- they were viable. I'd rather vote for a democrat that has a chance, than a libertarian that doesnt
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby KysenMurrin » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:17 pm

And that's the reason they don't have a chance. It's necessary to change that attitude on an individual level first, until enough people are comfortable voting third party that it starts to become noticable. Each person that just goes along with the two party system for that reason, just reinforces the idea that it's the only way worth going.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:55 pm

I'm sorry, but I won't take the risk.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Melathys » Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:01 pm

the way i see it, the fastest way for us to see change in this nation is to stop voting for the two parties that put us into this mess. just imagine the change we could see if everyone "wasted" their vote.
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