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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Nooska » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:48 am

Around here we have a long list of allowed names (A boy can have a given name of "Awesome"), but the law is a "common sense" approach, that you are not allowed to name your child something which can be an obvious problem for the child later, or is directly offensive (as in indecent) or clearly offensive to established religious beliefs - with the caveat that if you can establish that it is a normal name for your family, or that someone else is named the same (first/given) name, you may use it.

The big one here was about a mother being judged to pay daily fines for naming her son Christophpher (single "ph" or double "f" was fine, but double "ph" was not).
She did eventually win it, because, while maybe being stupid, it was not offensive, or obvisously putting the child a a disadvantage (apart from learning to spell his own name possibly).

How "Awesome" can be accepted under this, I do not know.. especially as there is nothing prohibiting you from taking the last name "Sauce" for instance...
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby fuzzygeek » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:58 am

If the criteria is putting the child at a disadvantage, at what point do they penalize Scrabble names, since there's actual research behind that?
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:17 am

My name is Sauce, Awesome Sauce.

That said, i have never understood why people have the need to name your kid Laquesha or Jamarcus... Or Mackenzie or Tidus...
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Nooska » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:41 am

Well one of those names (Mackenzie) is actually an old name, as for the rest...

@fuzzy: I'm not immediately familiar with "scrabble names" ?
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby fuzzygeek » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:51 am

Put Scrabble tiles into a bag. Pick out tiles at random. New hip baby name ensues.

Also used to describe spelling "traditional" names in an unusual fashion -- e.g., Jaiymes or Jaxynn or Allasyn, but encompasses Afro-Ameri naming conventions, e.g., Shaniqua, Trayvon, etc.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Shoju » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:51 am

I've no problem with names. I don't put much stock in names. My daughter has a first name that looks like a misspelled name, and a middle name that no one can seem to pronounce, even though it's a common old spelling of the name.

Hell, I went through life with 2 middles names, and because of the way the paperwork was filled out, everyone thought I had 2 first names. Every year I started school, I had to go through the process of correcting everyone that my first name was just one word. Not both.

Thankfully, as an adult I've been able to correct that with my driver's license. They don't ask for your whole name, just first, last, middle initial. So I only put one middle initial down.

I can see having a problem with something like bus stop 16 or whatever, but I have a really hard time stopping people from using other names.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Amirya » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:21 am

So our longtime warlock is named Geoff. Just Geoff, like short for Geoffrey.

In Wrath, for the longest time, the raid leader of the ICC 25 group we were pugging kept calling him G-off. G-off this, G-off that. We laughed about it in guild chat, but just ignored it. Then came the day that someone else blurts on Vent, "it's pronounced Jeff!"

"Then it should be spelled that way!"

".....it IS. That's the British spelling."

Dead silence ensued on Ventrilo, while guild chat exploded.

On a similar note, that judge should be overruled. I don't care if this is her first time ordering a first name change (and apparently she chose what it would be? Did I read that right?). That sets a dangerous precedent. I've seen how people in low-to-no Hispanic population areas spell Hispanic words (Estrella became Astraya). What if I were a judge who deemed that Jesus is an inappropriate name for a boy? But it's not pronounced geez-us, it's hay-soos!

(Personally, I think Messiah is a damn stupid name too, but I'm not the parent nor the child. And what's to stop the parents from the new fad, "it looks like Martin, but is pronounced Messiah"?)
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Shoju » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:03 pm

So lets have some fun with names.

How would you pronounce

Coryne

I'll give you a hint, it's a feminine name.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:12 pm

My first thought would be Corin or Corinne, but given the topic at hand, I'm guessing Karen?
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Amirya » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:28 pm

Corinne is my guess.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Nooska » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:01 pm

Cah-REE-n(e)?

Ortherwise I'm with corinne, but betting people pronounce it Core-ain.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Shoju » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:04 pm

It is Corinne, You guys are good :)

But, everyone pronounces it

KOR ee anne

Ugh. It's not like we even invented the spelling. It's the way it was spelled in a British Dystopia that I read..... in College? I'll check the name of the book tonight. Not very popular book, but I loved it.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Amirya » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:57 pm

I could see the Cory part, but anne? There's no A there, what the hell
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:51 pm

A lot of people don't bother to think between seeing the word and saying what they expected to see. So you get Cory-Anne.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Koatanga » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:13 pm

Fivelives wrote:Number 16 Bus Shelter is just hilarious.

We have a culture that delights in taking the piss. In the 2001 census, enough people put "Jedi" as their religion that it would have been the second largest religion in New Zealand if it existed.

To be fair, that was actually a protest about the relevance of religion to a census, but you get the idea. Say we can't or shouldn't do something and be prepared for some piss-taking.

But I am looking forward to the wedding of number 16 Bus Shelter to Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii (both real names).
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Darielle » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:27 pm

KysenMurrin wrote:A lot of people don't bother to think between seeing the word and saying what they expected to see. So you get Cory-Anne.


In school, the teachers were required to refer to us by last name.
My last name is 14 letters long. The guy before me (in alphabetical order)'s last name was 12. THe guy after me was Ng.

We had a FUN time with that every year when new teachers came into play.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:23 am

http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/political-in ... -fox-news/
As part of a national journalism conference on Tuesday, August 20, America's Survival, Inc. (ASI), a public policy organization, is officially releasing a new report on radical changes at Fox News that should cause great concern to pro-family conservatives.
"Pushing Sean Hannity out of the 9:00 p.m. slot, to make way for pro-homosexual advocate Megyn Kelly, is another sign of the channel's left-ward drift and decline," said ASI President Cliff Kincaid, a veteran journalist and media critic.



Also, this PDF from said association...
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/Kincaid ... -FINAL.pdf
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Reading parts of it, I wish I could shower myself with bleach...
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:28 am

Now, for a more standard political fare news

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/0 ... me-exists/
At a town hall meeting in El Dorado Hills, California on Tuesday, a constituent asked McClintock for his “stance on Wall Street criminal practices.” The congressman responded, “Well first of all, for a criminal practice there has to be a gun. It’s pretty simple.”
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Amirya » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:07 am

That's a pretty stupid statement. So if there's a knife, or a club, or other duress, it's not a crime?
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:11 am

Fridmarr wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:Well well well... Looks like Scalia and the SCOTUS were wrong. NC has risen up to the challenge and try to undermine voting rights.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/0 ... ppression/
That's not a logical summary.
That a legislature may pass laws that violate voting rights doesn't make SCOTUS wrong. I highly doubt that SCOTUS indicated that no legislature will ever again pass a law that violates voting rights.

To be clear, SCOTUS didn't change the rules around what makes a law regarding voting rights constitutional they changed the procedure for challenging those laws, by getting rid of special laws that only affected certain districts based on defunct data. If these new laws do in fact violate the rights of voters, they can be challenged and overturned. Now all jurisdictions are subject to the same procedure, so that all of our citizens have equal rights.


http://www.thestate.com/2013/08/14/2920 ... rtail.html
Within hours of Gov. Pat McCrory signing a Republican-backed bill this week making sweeping changes to the state's voting laws, local elections boards in two college towns made moves that could make it harder for students to vote.

The Watauga County Board of Elections voted Monday to eliminate an early voting site and election-day polling precinct on the campus of Appalachian State University.

The Pasquotank County Board of Elections on Tuesday barred an Elizabeth City State University senior from running for city council, ruling his on-campus address couldn't be used to establish local residency. Following the decision, the head of the county's Republican Party said he plans to challenge the voter registrations of more students at the historically black university ahead of upcoming elections.


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But, allowing Section 5 to remain as part of the Voting Rights Act was just Racial Entitlement according to Scalia, right?
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Nooska » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:54 am

And posting in LGBT made me remember..æ
I haven't updated about this; We have municipal elections coming up in november (I'm a candidate) - and in our municipality (and 2 or 3 others out of the 96 we have), there is a new party on the ballot. "Part of the Danes" (loosely ttranslated), mostly called "the nationalists". I'm really not looking forward to debates, I handle 'stupidity' very badly in general, and these so claled nationalists are an offspring of the now closed down national socialist party (yes, that sort of national socialism), and seem to be even more extreme.
Headline interview in the local paper saying that yes, they want to establish segregated kindergardens for muslims (it isn't a racial segregation from the very distinct wording, but a religiousone) - not to give them opportunities, but to protect our danish children from associating with them.

Never mind that its illegal out the wazoo, the level of thought these candidates (okay, tbf, its only their candidate for mayor) show, means I will ahve a hard tiome in any debate, disregarding political differences.

The only "upside" is a purely PR upside, since the majority opposition party (they call themselves "Left", the "liberal" party) is the only party that didn't immediately disavow any ideas, but said that they were welcome in regards to forming a majority for appointing the mayor.
They are so hungry for attempting to take the mayoral position that they don't dare alienate anyone who might support them, though I honestly think that they would probably rather have the current mayor than sit on the mercy of this party. Maybe its just the title, and the nice paycheck that goes along with it (~100k$US / year + what comes in on other boards etc that the mayor by tradition occupies, as opposed to the ~17k$US for a regular member of the council).
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:44 am

Well...
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... ned-uk-nsa
http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/08/ ... ald-right/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... n-stories/

Not sure what is scarier, that UK is going after the press big time, or that they seem to be doing it at the behest of the US.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby fuzzygeek » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:40 am

Nooska wrote:We have municipal elections coming up in november (I'm a candidate)


Very much looking forward to hearing updates to this.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby fuzzygeek » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:45 am

Klaudandus wrote:Not sure what is scarier, that UK is going after the press big time, or that they seem to be doing it at the behest of the US.


The UK has never had freedom of the press, so some things they take for granted seem remarkably abhorrent in the US.

"Anti-terrorism" has been the "shut up and do what we say" justification for idiot government heavy handedness for more than a decade; the only possible positive is the populace getting wise and scaling back. This is difficult because governments never, ever want to sceed any power once they've got it, but it does happen.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:28 pm

fuzzygeek wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:Not sure what is scarier, that UK is going after the press big time, or that they seem to be doing it at the behest of the US.


The UK has never had freedom of the press, so some things they take for granted seem remarkably abhorrent in the US.

"Anti-terrorism" has been the "shut up and do what we say" justification for idiot government heavy handedness for more than a decade; the only possible positive is the populace getting wise and scaling back. This is difficult because governments never, ever want to sceed any power once they've got it, but it does happen.


Point there, but still friggin' scary.

It was later revealed that the White House actually got a courtesy call letting them know that they had detained Miranda, but truth be told, I still wonder if this was the UK taken initiative or being prompted by the US to do this in the first place?

I mean, a couple of months ago, we had France and other countries pretty much blocking the plane carrying the bolivian president to cross their air space because they thought Snowden might be in that plane.
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