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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Fivelives » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:31 pm

I'm not sure about NC, or the new CCW laws (my permit isn't due for renewal until 2014), but in my state, the only places you can't carry concealed are behind metal detectors. So that doesn't really limit you from carrying anywhere other than airports and government buildings. Places that serve alcohol are fine. That might've changed when they passed the legislation forcing all states to recognize issued permits regardless of where they were issued - I'll find out next year, I guess.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Lieris » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:26 pm

I don't even like seeing our anti-terrorism police with firearms. I find the idea of civilians carrying guns in public profoundly upsetting.

Meanwhile, Obama is a wanker part 578: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XevsP-dIs8

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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:32 pm

Seeing how the whole student loans thing was being blocked by Republicans, I dont see how that is Obama's fault.
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.s ... on_st.html
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jul/10 ... s-20130711
http://www.wcvb.com/news/money/sen-warr ... index.html
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Koatanga » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:54 pm

Lieris wrote:I don't even like seeing our anti-terrorism police with firearms. I find the idea of civilians carrying guns in public profoundly upsetting.

Meanwhile, Obama is a wanker part 578: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XevsP-dIs8

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I work in the finance industry. $51 billion gross profit on a ledger of $1.2 trillion is peanuts. That's basically overhead and administration.

And it's not owed by "students" since they don't have to pay it back until they are done with college/university.

I am sympathetic to the fact that many graduates these days can't find jobs, and so can't repay their loans, but that's a different issue than the expense of the loans.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:06 pm

Aw hell naw
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:02 am

http://www.npr.org/2013/07/30/206654000 ... ly-success

Before
"For goodness sakes, of course the employees and the retirees like it, it's free," says Republican State Sen. Dave Lewis.

He wonders what that free price tag is actually costing the state government as well as the wider Helena community.

"If they're taking money out of the hospital's pocket, the hospital's raising the price on other things to offset that," Lewis says.

After:
Now, Lewis is a retired state employee himself. He says, personally, he does like going there, too.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:56 am

An article from 1998 that seems awfully apropos on the GOP
"The Republican Party is increasingly a party of the South and the mountains. The southernness of its congressional leaders -- Speaker Newt Gingrich, of Georgia; House Majority Leader Dick Armey and House Majority Whip Tom DeLay, of Texas; Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, of Mississippi; Senate Majority Whip Don Nickles, of Oklahoma -- only heightens the identification. There is a big problem with having a southern, as opposed to a midwestern or a California, base. Southern interests diverge from those of the rest of the country, and the southern presence in the Republican Party has passed a "tipping point," at which it began to alienate voters from other regions.

As southern control over the Republican agenda grows, the party alienates even conservative voters in other regions. The prevalence of right-to-work laws in southern states may be depriving Republicans of the socially conservative midwestern trade unionists whom they managed to split in the Reagan years, and sending Reagan Democrats back to their ancestral party in the process. Anti-government sentiment makes little sense in New England, where government, as even those who hate it will concede, is neither remote nor unresponsive.

The most profound clash between the South and everyone else, of course, is a cultural one. It arises from the southern tradition of putting values -- particularly Christian values -- at the center of politics. This is not the same as saying that the Republican Party is "too far right"; Americans consistently tell pollsters that they are conservative on values issues. It is, rather, that the Republicans have narrowly defined "values" as the folkways of one regional subculture, and have urged their imposition on the rest of the country. Again, the nonsoutherners who object to this style of politics may be just as conservative as those who practice it. But they are put off to see that "traditional" values are now defined by the majority party as the values of the U-Haul-renting denizens of two-year-old churches and three-year-old shopping malls.

http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/is ... un/gop.htm
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:04 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YojKugFDzNk#at=23
"At that point we have to stand up and win the argument and say to the American people, 'No, we voted to fund the government, but why is Barack Obama threatening to shut down the government?'"

"...I think shut down is a misnomer. What it is in fact is a partial, temporary shut down because Social Security checks continue to flow, the military continues to be paid, the national debt continues to be serviced."

"If there's no Continuing Resolution in effect, then what happens is non-essential government functions are temporarily suspended. Now that's inconvenient, but we actually see that every single week on the weekends," added Sen. Cruz.


So... force a shutdown of the government and blame the other guy? Okay...
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:48 am

I feel bad for AZ, and I hope they can reach a compromise with FEMA to help out AZ with the fires...but I can't stand Flake and McCain bitching about FEMA/AZ not getting federal aid, when they voted against Hurricane Sandy relief.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Shoju » Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:25 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/tenn-judge-change ... 23538.html

To some of our non us members, this probably isn't that shocking, but to me, this is downright appalling. I don't believe that anyone should be able to tell people that they can't name their child something, unless it's something terrible (Like say...., Fuckwit Dumbass)

But, telling someone that they can't name their child Messiah, and then follow it up with a religious connotation about how it's a title that only one person has earned, and that person is Jesus Christ, shows a serious problem with the separation of religion and government in the country.

Seriously Judge? You are a Fuckwit Dumbass.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Koatanga » Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:53 pm

Shoju wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/tenn-judge-changes-infants-name-messiah-215423538.html

To some of our non us members, this probably isn't that shocking, but to me, this is downright appalling. I don't believe that anyone should be able to tell people that they can't name their child something, unless it's something terrible (Like say...., Fuckwit Dumbass)

But, telling someone that they can't name their child Messiah, and then follow it up with a religious connotation about how it's a title that only one person has earned, and that person is Jesus Christ, shows a serious problem with the separation of religion and government in the country.

Seriously Judge? You are a Fuckwit Dumbass.

They protest to the kid being named Messiah, but live in a county named Cocke.

Messiah is not an allowed name in New Zealand, nor are Lucifer, Duke, 89, Bishop, Baron, General, Judge, King, Knight, Mr. and the letters C, D, I and T. You also can't have a name with an asterisk, comma, period, or other punctuation mark (one assume apostrophe is allowed).

Apparently the list of disallowed names was started after we took some international grief for allowing a set of twins to be called Benson and Hedges, and boys to be named Violence and Number 16 Bus Shelter.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby fuzzygeek » Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:55 pm

That's pretty dumb.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Darielle » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:56 am

I believe Anal is also banned, but yeah the Number 16 Bus Shelter was the big one.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Fivelives » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:04 am

Number 16 Bus Shelter is just hilarious.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:02 am

There was a football player called YourHighness. And some petty thief was called BornGodSupreme
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Nooska » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:48 am

Around here we have a long list of allowed names (A boy can have a given name of "Awesome"), but the law is a "common sense" approach, that you are not allowed to name your child something which can be an obvious problem for the child later, or is directly offensive (as in indecent) or clearly offensive to established religious beliefs - with the caveat that if you can establish that it is a normal name for your family, or that someone else is named the same (first/given) name, you may use it.

The big one here was about a mother being judged to pay daily fines for naming her son Christophpher (single "ph" or double "f" was fine, but double "ph" was not).
She did eventually win it, because, while maybe being stupid, it was not offensive, or obvisously putting the child a a disadvantage (apart from learning to spell his own name possibly).

How "Awesome" can be accepted under this, I do not know.. especially as there is nothing prohibiting you from taking the last name "Sauce" for instance...
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby fuzzygeek » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:58 am

If the criteria is putting the child at a disadvantage, at what point do they penalize Scrabble names, since there's actual research behind that?
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:17 am

My name is Sauce, Awesome Sauce.

That said, i have never understood why people have the need to name your kid Laquesha or Jamarcus... Or Mackenzie or Tidus...
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Nooska » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:41 am

Well one of those names (Mackenzie) is actually an old name, as for the rest...

@fuzzy: I'm not immediately familiar with "scrabble names" ?
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby fuzzygeek » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:51 am

Put Scrabble tiles into a bag. Pick out tiles at random. New hip baby name ensues.

Also used to describe spelling "traditional" names in an unusual fashion -- e.g., Jaiymes or Jaxynn or Allasyn, but encompasses Afro-Ameri naming conventions, e.g., Shaniqua, Trayvon, etc.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Shoju » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:51 am

I've no problem with names. I don't put much stock in names. My daughter has a first name that looks like a misspelled name, and a middle name that no one can seem to pronounce, even though it's a common old spelling of the name.

Hell, I went through life with 2 middles names, and because of the way the paperwork was filled out, everyone thought I had 2 first names. Every year I started school, I had to go through the process of correcting everyone that my first name was just one word. Not both.

Thankfully, as an adult I've been able to correct that with my driver's license. They don't ask for your whole name, just first, last, middle initial. So I only put one middle initial down.

I can see having a problem with something like bus stop 16 or whatever, but I have a really hard time stopping people from using other names.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Amirya » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:21 am

So our longtime warlock is named Geoff. Just Geoff, like short for Geoffrey.

In Wrath, for the longest time, the raid leader of the ICC 25 group we were pugging kept calling him G-off. G-off this, G-off that. We laughed about it in guild chat, but just ignored it. Then came the day that someone else blurts on Vent, "it's pronounced Jeff!"

"Then it should be spelled that way!"

".....it IS. That's the British spelling."

Dead silence ensued on Ventrilo, while guild chat exploded.

On a similar note, that judge should be overruled. I don't care if this is her first time ordering a first name change (and apparently she chose what it would be? Did I read that right?). That sets a dangerous precedent. I've seen how people in low-to-no Hispanic population areas spell Hispanic words (Estrella became Astraya). What if I were a judge who deemed that Jesus is an inappropriate name for a boy? But it's not pronounced geez-us, it's hay-soos!

(Personally, I think Messiah is a damn stupid name too, but I'm not the parent nor the child. And what's to stop the parents from the new fad, "it looks like Martin, but is pronounced Messiah"?)
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Shoju » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:03 pm

So lets have some fun with names.

How would you pronounce

Coryne

I'll give you a hint, it's a feminine name.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:12 pm

My first thought would be Corin or Corinne, but given the topic at hand, I'm guessing Karen?
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Amirya » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:28 pm

Corinne is my guess.
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