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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:03 pm

Koatanga wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:The Cognitive Dissonance is strong in this one
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/0 ... 70588.html

Basically "We want to protect unborns, but screw them if they want to qualify for health care services because they're not born yet"

Aren't Republicans against public health care whether the person is born or not?


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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Sagara » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:17 pm

THen again, why wouldn't he state THAT as his reasoning ("In an economy in crisis, it is our solemn duty to keep a close watch on our government's spendings yadda yadda yadda") Instead of something like "welp, not born yet!" which is really opening himself to the pro-choice group?
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby fuzzygeek » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:27 pm

It's becoming overwhelmingly apparent that some people go into politics when they can't do fuck all else.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby KysenMurrin » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:17 am

Sagara wrote:THen again, why wouldn't he state THAT as his reasoning ("In an economy in crisis, it is our solemn duty to keep a close watch on our government's spendings yadda yadda yadda") Instead of something like "welp, not born yet!" which is really opening himself to the pro-choice group?

Reads to me like the "not born yet!" was a knee-jerk reaction and they hadn't actually thought it through.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Sagara » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:30 am

Indeed. Doesn't make it less of a major faux pas. In fact it makes it even more of a bad call - if you can't be trusted to think your answers to political questions through, how can you be trusted to lead?
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:09 am

Everything is bigger in Texas, even the stupidity if the house if representatives and state senate.

Also, stay classy Texas
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby fuzzygeek » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:52 pm

Apparently people were bringing in jars of urine, shit, and paint, along with used tampons. Yeesh. Optics, people.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:12 am

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/02 ... gle+Reader

*facedesk*

So, the F-35 is the 2 am hookup at the trashy bar once they announce it's last call.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Fivelives » Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:27 am

The problem with politics today is that the electorate, by and large, doesn't educate itself on the candidates' platforms. News doesn't report it, or the reporting is so biased as to be virtually unusable in regards to forming an opinion, and people simply either don't have the time or don't have the interest to research the candidates on both sides of the election.

That's how we get politicians in office that seem to think they have carte blanche to do whatever the hell they want, regardless of what their electorate believes. Because they know, pretty much beyond all doubt, that their reelection is essentially on lock - thanks to people voting blindly along party lines, regardless of how far away those lines may be from their personal beliefs.

I was talking to a coworker the other day about just that - she used to be firmly republican, but recently looked at the differences between her personal feelings and suddenly realized that the republican party moved so far to the right that she's essentially a liberal now, or might as well be.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:44 am

Fivelives wrote:The problem with politics today is that the electorate, by and large, doesn't educate itself on the candidates' platforms. News doesn't report it, or the reporting is so biased as to be virtually unusable in regards to forming an opinion, and people simply either don't have the time or don't have the interest to research the candidates on both sides of the election.

That's how we get politicians in office that seem to think they have carte blanche to do whatever the hell they want, regardless of what their electorate believes. Because they know, pretty much beyond all doubt, that their reelection is essentially on lock - thanks to people voting blindly along party lines, regardless of how far away those lines may be from their personal beliefs.

I was talking to a coworker the other day about just that - she used to be firmly republican, but recently looked at the differences between her personal feelings and suddenly realized that the republican party moved so far to the right that she's essentially a liberal now, or might as well be.


Yep.

Stonekettle remarks on that on one of his posts.
http://www.stonekettle.com/2011/12/ever ... avent.html

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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Jabari » Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:48 am

No, Fivelives.

There are two problems:

The first is the media. Luckily, justice was done in Sanford, but you wouldn't know it if your only source of information is the MSM. I hope CNN, HLN, and MSDNC are sued into bankruptcy over that case - that's far, far less than they deserve.

The other problem of course is the electorate is just ... savage. Willfully ignorant, horribly mal- (or un-)educated, and a vast majority treat vice as virtue. This country has lost most of what made it civilized, and I'm afraid the only way back involves bloodshed, given that secession won't be allowed.

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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:42 am

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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Flex » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:02 am

Jabari wrote:
The other problem of course is the electorate is just ... savage. Willfully ignorant, horribly mal- (or un-)educated, and a vast majority treat vice as virtue. This country has lost most of what made it civilized, and I'm afraid the only way back involves bloodshed, given that secession won't be allowed.


I am 100% sure that the electorate has never been educated enough to even come close to this romanticized vision that some people have of the past.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Fivelives » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:22 am

No, not even close. I agree - but I don't remember people glorifying in their mistaken beliefs, either, or refusing to be educated at all.

Take Obamacare, for instance. One of the doctors in my area (an optometrist, but still) has been bitching about it to anyone who will listen. He's absolutely convinced that government workers will be rationing healthcare despite all of the evidence to the contrary.
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