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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:16 pm

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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:27 pm

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/m ... ine-060513
FTA: Just because the Supreme Court rules on something doesn't necessarily mean that that's constitutional.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/S ... ries_Again
FTA: A proposed bill, on special order in the state Senate, would allow the state attorney general to take businesses, including health insurers, to court if he "has reasonable cause to believe" they are harming people by implementing the law. The bill already has passed the House. If it passes, the bill could push South Carolina to the forefront of Obamacare resistance, giving the state's Republican leaders a national stage. It also could push South Carolina into yet another costly legal battle in the federal courts that, critics say, is unnecessary and avoidable.

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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:40 am

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2013/06 ... -activist/
FTA:“I’m going to be real honest with you, the Republican Party doesn’t want black people to vote if they’re going to vote 9-to-1 for Democrats,” Ken Emanuelson said.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby aureon » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:37 pm

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfiel ... -republic/
Tell me this magazine is a satirical one, please?
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:57 pm

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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:54 pm

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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Cogglamp » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:45 am

Just checking, I'm not the only one here that is appalled by the spying that was done by the NSA, am I? By my view, this is an egregious breach of the 4th amendment. I'm sure a good attorney can explain to me why this isn't a complete breach of the 4th amendment but I haven't heard that good attorney come forward yet.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:48 am

Nope. I'm appalled as well.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Amirya » Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:08 pm

Same.

Far as I'm aware, I haven't done anything to flag any "key words" or anything...yet. How long until I do?

Of course, I live in Arizona, where it is also apparently easy to be arrested with a BAC of 0.00.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Nooska » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:34 am

Appalled and apathic at the same time here.

Should it surprise me that it doesn't surprise me?

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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:43 am

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/ ... s-did-year

Quite trollish article, but there's some truth behind it.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:38 am

I think the worst part about the whole snooping thing is that some lawmakers think it should go even further
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/lind ... 32835.html
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby fuzzygeek » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:14 pm

Vague laws and sheer legislative volume pretty much guarantees everyone is guilty of something under some interpretation of something, somewhere. Having a massive database just makes it trivial to apply pressure.

"Hey you might want to stop blogging about X, unless you feel like being prosecuted for Y."
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:26 pm

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/12/r ... democrats/

“The idea of — quote — small government is in direct conflict with big government Republicans sticking their nose my vagina,” one voter named Suzanne wrote. “How can we get the conservatives — mostly men — to quit blaming women, many times girls, solely for unwanted pregnancies?”
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:28 pm

Political amusement rather than a commentary
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/12/f ... your-back/

“Kilmeade and Friends” featured the leader of the English Defence League (EDL) on Monday, a protest group known to march through the streets attacking non-white people and making Nazi salutes. After about 15 minutes of interviewing 30-year-old EDL leader leader Tommy Robinson about his anti-Islamic views, Kilmeade exclaimed: “Well Tommy, we’ve got your back and we’ll definitely look to keep in touch. I really think it’s a very — it’s great, what you’re doing.”
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Passionario » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:01 am

Meanwhile, Russian parliament passed some more horrible laws this week.

Publicly disrespecting religion or offending religious feelings of believers is a crime that can now land you in jail for several years. So can telling conflicted teenagers that it's OK to be gay, or playing Freddy Mercury's music videos on TV.

Oh, and there's a bill coming up that will legally redefine family as "man and woman with no fewer than three children, and their elderly parents, all living together in a single apartment". It is expected to pass and come into effect before the end of the year. :x

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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:29 am

so i heard... >.<
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:02 am

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/fema- ... hp?ref=fpb

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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Amirya » Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:15 am

Passionario wrote:Oh, and there's a bill coming up that will legally redefine family as "man and woman with no fewer than three children, and their elderly parents, all living together in a single apartment".

...so a man and a woman, with 1 child, and no elderly parents living with them, in a single apartment...is no longer family?

Am I reading that right?
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Passionario » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:25 pm

Amirya wrote:...so a man and a woman, with 1 child, and no elderly parents living with them, in a single apartment...is no longer family?

Pretty much. To start with, these man and woman will no longer be eligible for any perks or bonuses available to families (in particular, they will not be placed in queue for housing) until they conform to the requirements. If they persist, they'll be hit with increasing fines and taxes until they conform.

Further plans for family-related legislation from now to 2025 include creating heavy taxes on divorces, placing severe limitations on abortions, instituting fines for having homosexual relationships and childbirths out of wedlock and making church weddings mandatory.

Of course, the author and chief proponent of this madness lives by herself in a huge mansion, while her only son lives in Belgium where he works for a pro-LGBT organization. When journalists pointed that ironic little tidbit out, she denounced them as 'homosexual pedophile lobbyists'.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby fuzzygeek » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:51 pm

What the fuck, Russia.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Passionario » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:30 pm

fuzzygeek wrote:What the fuck, Russia.

There's a reason why I've been taking steps towards eventual emigration to UK. When it comes to fucking over the populace, Tories don't hold a candle to our parliament and government.

(Did I mention that some Russian regions have for-profit child protection services? With minimum 'children taken away from their parents per month' quotas and monetary bonuses for exceeding them?)
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Amirya » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:09 pm

So if you are conforming to the required standards, and then your elderly parents die because, well, they're old...you are suddenly no longer family?

fuzzygeek wrote:What the fuck, Russia.

Because it bears repeating.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Passionario » Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:41 am

fuzzygeek wrote:What the fuck, Russia.

Philosophers, historians, writers, sociologists and other great minds have been pondering that question for centuries. My preferred hypothesis is that Russia always had a 'culture of honor' (as opposed to the 'culture of law' prevalent in modern Western democracies).
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Cogglamp » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:34 pm

The culture of honor seems to fit. The "lack of resources" could be argued otherwise but if you think about it, it still applies. Twenty to fifty years ago, many of Russia's natural resources were locked down due to the harsh climates. Now those resources are locked down because free enterprise is essentially shunned and you have an oligopoly stifling capital investment.
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