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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Passionario » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:01 am

Meanwhile, Russian parliament passed some more horrible laws this week.

Publicly disrespecting religion or offending religious feelings of believers is a crime that can now land you in jail for several years. So can telling conflicted teenagers that it's OK to be gay, or playing Freddy Mercury's music videos on TV.

Oh, and there's a bill coming up that will legally redefine family as "man and woman with no fewer than three children, and their elderly parents, all living together in a single apartment". It is expected to pass and come into effect before the end of the year. :x

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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:29 am

so i heard... >.<
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:02 am

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/fema- ... hp?ref=fpb

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Texas: GIVE US FEDERAL MONEY! GIVE US FEDERAL MONEY!
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Fuck you Perry and Texas lawmakers, you reap what you sow.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Amirya » Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:15 am

Passionario wrote:Oh, and there's a bill coming up that will legally redefine family as "man and woman with no fewer than three children, and their elderly parents, all living together in a single apartment".

...so a man and a woman, with 1 child, and no elderly parents living with them, in a single apartment...is no longer family?

Am I reading that right?
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Passionario » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:25 pm

Amirya wrote:...so a man and a woman, with 1 child, and no elderly parents living with them, in a single apartment...is no longer family?

Pretty much. To start with, these man and woman will no longer be eligible for any perks or bonuses available to families (in particular, they will not be placed in queue for housing) until they conform to the requirements. If they persist, they'll be hit with increasing fines and taxes until they conform.

Further plans for family-related legislation from now to 2025 include creating heavy taxes on divorces, placing severe limitations on abortions, instituting fines for having homosexual relationships and childbirths out of wedlock and making church weddings mandatory.

Of course, the author and chief proponent of this madness lives by herself in a huge mansion, while her only son lives in Belgium where he works for a pro-LGBT organization. When journalists pointed that ironic little tidbit out, she denounced them as 'homosexual pedophile lobbyists'.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby fuzzygeek » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:51 pm

What the fuck, Russia.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Passionario » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:30 pm

fuzzygeek wrote:What the fuck, Russia.

There's a reason why I've been taking steps towards eventual emigration to UK. When it comes to fucking over the populace, Tories don't hold a candle to our parliament and government.

(Did I mention that some Russian regions have for-profit child protection services? With minimum 'children taken away from their parents per month' quotas and monetary bonuses for exceeding them?)
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Amirya » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:09 pm

So if you are conforming to the required standards, and then your elderly parents die because, well, they're old...you are suddenly no longer family?

fuzzygeek wrote:What the fuck, Russia.

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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Passionario » Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:41 am

fuzzygeek wrote:What the fuck, Russia.

Philosophers, historians, writers, sociologists and other great minds have been pondering that question for centuries. My preferred hypothesis is that Russia always had a 'culture of honor' (as opposed to the 'culture of law' prevalent in modern Western democracies).
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Cogglamp » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:34 pm

The culture of honor seems to fit. The "lack of resources" could be argued otherwise but if you think about it, it still applies. Twenty to fifty years ago, many of Russia's natural resources were locked down due to the harsh climates. Now those resources are locked down because free enterprise is essentially shunned and you have an oligopoly stifling capital investment.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:49 pm

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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:04 pm

Well shit, it's even worse than thought
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57589 ... -warrants/
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:21 pm

The words that land you on the NSA watchlist
http://au.businessinsider.com/nsa-prism ... ing-2013-6
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Koatanga » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:36 pm

Klaudandus wrote:The words that land you on the NSA watchlist
http://au.businessinsider.com/nsa-prism ... ing-2013-6

I question the accuracy of the list that includes "porno" but not "bomb".
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:46 pm

Koatanga wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:The words that land you on the NSA watchlist
http://au.businessinsider.com/nsa-prism ... ing-2013-6

I question the accuracy of the list that includes "porno" but not "bomb".


Yeah, very grain of salt thing.
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