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Re: Riots In Vancouver After Stanley Cup Finals

Postby Masumi » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:25 pm

give the police paintball guns with that mace liquid in the balls and let them go nuts, see how many of those people want to riot some more. that or grace them in the leg with a warning shot, see who wants to keep rioting after a few people go down.
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Re: Riots In Vancouver After Stanley Cup Finals

Postby Fetzie » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:21 pm

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Lightbeard wrote:I'm pretty sure the whole point of a Flashbang is to create a blinding light in a dark room (enclosed by walls where the light can't escape)

It'd seem pretty silly to Flashbang someone outside during the day


Flashbangs don't really make a huge flash, and you're not supposed to use them in enclosed spaces. They're designed to blow out eardrums and cause vertigo/tinnitus, the flash itself just a (bonus) side effect of the explosion. If you throw a flashbang in an enclosed space, the pressure wave bounces off the walls and intensifies the effect to the point where it can kill, which sort of negates that whole "less than lethal" idea behind a flashbang.

Here's a flashbang grenade going off - looks awfully similar to the one in the video above: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZM8Mq9ll1g



If the thing that hit that guy in the family juwels was anything like the video fivelives posted there, the police would have been scraping him and half a dozen other people nearby off the pavement. There is no way anyone would throw a grenade of any sort into a crowd like that (and for someone to get away from a direct hit). Was probably just something that makes more of a show than a bang, rather like a firework with the charge cut down.
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Re: Riots In Vancouver After Stanley Cup Finals

Postby Lightbeard » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:01 pm

A flashbang outside seems incredibly unlikely but then again I'm not with the Riot police.
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Re: Riots In Vancouver After Stanley Cup Finals

Postby Fetzie » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:07 pm

you just need to compare the explosions to see that one is not the same as the other - one goes phut and sprays a couple of sparks, the other goes bang and nearly dismantles a wall.
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Re: Riots In Vancouver After Stanley Cup Finals

Postby Arnock » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:30 pm

I see no dismantled walls...
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Re: Riots In Vancouver After Stanley Cup Finals

Postby Jeremoot » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:57 pm

fudomyou wrote:Related: the best picture from the riots.

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When I saw this I thought the same thing, but the story behind it is that he's giving her CPR. She got stabbed in the stomach, feinted, and his other hand is putting pressure on her wound.

That, or she just got knocked out, for some reason both stories are going around.

Here's another angle:

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Re: Riots In Vancouver After Stanley Cup Finals

Postby Arnock » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:07 pm

that's.... not CPR
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Re: Riots In Vancouver After Stanley Cup Finals

Postby Fivelives » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:30 pm

There are a few grenades that you can survive fairly easily even if you jump on them. Stingers and smoke/gas grenades come immediately to mind. But yeah - flashbangs aren't that nasty.

If you look at the second video, you see that the grenade tosses off secondary "sparkler" type things that make a flash when they go off. Just like a firework. It's not bright, and it's not going to blind you during the day, but when used at night - yeah.

Then look at the end of the first video, you see the grenade thrown toss out those same sparklers, only they ricochet off the dude's junk (insult to injury!) and hit the ground before going off.

Flashbang grenades are more lethal than tear gas grenades, and less lethal than stingers. They work just fine outdoors and in any kind of lighting - it's the pressure wave they put out that does the incapacitating, and that'll work anywhere. The guy probably got hit in the nuts by the grenade, then it bounced off and shot secondary sparklers into his junk and exploded - close enough that his eardrums were ruptured and his equilibrium was upset - so, he goes down.

Anyway, who fucking cares? It's a hilarious video, and Canadians are silly for rioting when they lose. Riots are supposed to be CELEBRATORY, silly canuckistanians!
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Re: Riots In Vancouver After Stanley Cup Finals

Postby Brekkie » Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:37 am

It's definitely a flashbang.
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Re: Riots In Vancouver After Stanley Cup Finals

Postby Fridmarr » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:41 am

Arnock wrote:that's.... not CPR

Yeah it's a rather odd way to give CPR. There an article about it this morning, http://news.yahoo.com/s/atlantic/201106 ... ssers38910

That article suggests that the dude could be taking advantage of her (big surprise). It looks like she's got her arm up on his neck and has lifted her head to meet his. Seems like mutual effort to me.
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Re: Riots In Vancouver After Stanley Cup Finals

Postby firstamendme » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:11 pm

Mutual, minor injury, and a comforting kiss according to yahoo.

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Re: Riots In Vancouver After Stanley Cup Finals

Postby Rachmaninoff » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:10 pm

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who watched the series? I thought about going to boston for the parade, but its going to be swamped and I'd have to leave at 8 to get there, park, take the train, just to simply be there
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Re: Riots In Vancouver After Stanley Cup Finals

Postby Fetzie » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:21 am

that is one hell of a big trophy
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Re: Riots In Vancouver After Stanley Cup Finals

Postby Arnock » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:59 pm

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Re: Riots In Vancouver After Stanley Cup Finals

Postby Skwigelf » Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:34 am

Fridmarr wrote:
Arnock wrote:that's.... not CPR

Yeah it's a rather odd way to give CPR. There an article about it this morning, http://news.yahoo.com/s/atlantic/201106 ... ssers38910

That article suggests that the dude could be taking advantage of her (big surprise). It looks like she's got her arm up on his neck and has lifted her head to meet his. Seems like mutual effort to me.


Local news interviewed them. They've been dating for a few months. She got knocked down, he bent down to help her up and gave her a kiss. Unfortunately the picture and the accompanying media kerfuffle make it out like they were making out for an extended period of time.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... ouple.html
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