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Re: Portal 2

Postby Fivelives » Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:32 am

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Fivelives wrote:I don't really care much for most of the first person stuff, or puzzle games in general. So yeah, there's a chance I won't like Portal :p


Let me reiterate.

I've NEVER MET ANYONE who didn't like portal 1


Bought it, played it, beat it, wasn't impressed. Still not my genre - I'm not a fan of puzzle games, so chances are I won't be a fan of portal 2. Sorry mew :\
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Re: Portal 2

Postby mew » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:10 am

Aw :( That's okay.

Seeing as how Portal 2 doesn't seem to have a ton of gameplay hours and I'm not a fan of re-playing games, I'm probably just going to wait until it's on sale or something. So far I have been hearing that it's good, but not super incredibly amazing like I would hear of the first one (but it was also really unique at the time). I also doubt that if I got it for co-op play I would really be able to find anyone to play with when I wanted to play :(
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Re: Portal 2

Postby Sabindeus » Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:35 am

mew wrote:Aw :( That's okay.

Seeing as how Portal 2 doesn't seem to have a ton of gameplay hours and I'm not a fan of re-playing games, I'm probably just going to wait until it's on sale or something. So far I have been hearing that it's good, but not super incredibly amazing like I would hear of the first one (but it was also really unique at the time). I also doubt that if I got it for co-op play I would really be able to find anyone to play with when I wanted to play :(


No, it's really incredibly amazing. Seriously. if you really feel like the price is not attractive enough then yeah I guess wait for it to drop but try to avoid internet spoilers in the meantime. It's worth it.
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Re: Portal 2

Postby Kelaan » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:51 am

Fivelives wrote:I wouldn't get your hopes up mew, I'll have to play through the first one and see if I like it before buying the second. And I've got a pretty considerable backlog to work through before I pick it up.

(And later, you bought it/beat it/weren't impressed. I noticed that after I wrote this; consider it for the rare other person who might not have already played it.)

Portal is like Minecraft, in that Nerds Like Me will love it forever and ever and ever. There are a (small, I assume) number of people who won't like it, and that's OK too, much like there are people who like snotty-nosed dogs or collecting stamps (which seem foreign to me).

Portal is a puzzle game; this one is too. If you like sarcasm and dry humor, you will likely LOVE this game. I think this summary is sufficiently spoiler-free of the first one:

- You are a test subject. You're not told how many test subjects there are before you, but the computer talking to you makes casual reference to your deaths and the deaths of others.
- Progress is from one door to another of a level. Levels are numbered, and have friendly icons hinting at the perils you will need to face.
- Fast reactions are not often required early on, and there are no foes that face you. It's all puzzles like "how do I get over there to push that button" or "How can I avoid/move that item in my way".
- (This point is a minor spoiler but you encounter it pretty early on.) The computer, GladOS, is a psychotic bitch who sarcastically taunts you about your imminent failure, while simultaneously encouraging you to do well, because once you finish this ordeal there will be cake.

What's post interesting to me is that it's a first person puzzle game, where you have near complete freedom of movement. You can place teleportation portals from the walls to the ceiling, for goodness' sake. It's AWESOME. If you've played FPSes enough to be comfortable with the movement/looking scheme, you have all the tools you need for this. Unlike every other first person game I can think of, there's no ammo conservation, no enemies actively hunting you, no DANGER aside from mostly static environmental hazards like fire pits. You don't need fast reflexes, and for much of the game there's no "need" to be a quicksave jockey like I normally am in shooters.

The puzzles were what drew me in, but the humor of the game kept me. I also really liked the exploratory aspect of a lot of it later on, as well as the well-paced growing challenge of the puzzles. I haven't replayed it, so I think I only got maybe 12-16 hours of play, but I don't regret the price (I bought the Orange Box for it). I plan to buy Portal 2 eventually, though not this week.

If you (or others) haven't played portal, I recommend playing it for the experience, even if you're not normally a shooter player.
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Re: Portal 2

Postby katraya » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:00 pm

Can it only be played in a first person point of view? That is something that I have never gotten the hang of. My brain just doesn't like it. That is the only thing preventing me from buying it for PC. I don't have any gaming consoles.
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Re: Portal 2

Postby bldavis » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:03 pm

fuck....
now im going to have to get it....
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Re: Portal 2

Postby KysenMurrin » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:23 pm

So I got to what I thought was the end (yeah I must be easily fooled. I tried to take Glados' escape route, too) and was a little disappointed... and then it got good. Still going...
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Re: Portal 2

Postby Sabindeus » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:24 pm

katraya wrote:Can it only be played in a first person point of view? That is something that I have never gotten the hang of. My brain just doesn't like it. That is the only thing preventing me from buying it for PC. I don't have any gaming consoles.


No, it's very much a first person view. If you can't handle first person then do not play Portal.

I have a friend who gets vertigo and thus can't play first person shooters without getting sick. He is very sad he missed out on Portal.
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Re: Portal 2

Postby Fivelives » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:48 pm

X-Play is calling Portal 2 one of the best games ever made, period. I don't doubt it's an excellent game - it's just not my schtick, yanno?

And yeah, the writing was incredibly good.
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Re: Portal 2

Postby Kelaan » Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:59 pm

I'm the same way with most RTSes, Fivelives. I love the plot and lore of Starcraft, and am an absolutely TERRIBLE player. I level skipped through almost all of Warcraft 3, missing out on more than half of the good plot bits that ended missions, and haven't bought Starcraft 2.

If First Person control doesn't work for you (Katraya), then yeah -- not for you.

You might try the Flash game inspired by it:
http://armorgames.com/play/107/portal-the-flash-version
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Re: Portal 2

Postby Fivelives » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:43 pm

I love RTS games, but hate the multiplayer on them. Probably because I suck at them too, heh.
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Re: Portal 2

Postby cerwillis » Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:00 pm

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Re: Portal 2

Postby mew » Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:07 pm

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katraya wrote:Can it only be played in a first person point of view? That is something that I have never gotten the hang of. My brain just doesn't like it. That is the only thing preventing me from buying it for PC. I don't have any gaming consoles.


No, it's very much a first person view. If you can't handle first person then do not play Portal.

I have a friend who gets vertigo and thus can't play first person shooters without getting sick. He is very sad he missed out on Portal.
Our raid leader last night was talking about getting ready to take his motion sickness medicine so he could play Portal 2 after the raid.
I definitely felt a bit ill after 3+ hours of playing the first Portal game in one sitting, it's a ton more movement, flying around, flipping gravitational directions and things than normal FPS games. You just have to play it more casually.

I'm horrible at shooters, but at least in the first Portal (as someone mentioned earlier) there isn't much fast reacting or pew pew shooting needed for a good chunk of the game. The only enemies (mild spoiler?) are stationary robots that shoot at you, they don't do much damage, and they can be defeated in a huge variety of ways (you can drop boxes on them, shoot portals under them, use boxes as body shields for yourself so you can take your time to shoot them with something, etc). Stuff doesn't run at you or chase you around like in most shooters.
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Re: Portal 2

Postby Shathus » Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:56 am

I started playing the first Portal last night. I definitely started feeling a bit... 'off' after awhile of going through portals and the ones the flip you around and rotate the screen. I blame getting older.

FUn game though (I had only played the flash version prior)
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Re: Portal 2

Postby Sabindeus » Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:32 am

mew wrote:I'm horrible at shooters, but at least in the first Portal (as someone mentioned earlier) there isn't much fast reacting or pew pew shooting needed for a good chunk of the game. The only enemies (mild spoiler?) are stationary robots that shoot at you, they don't do much damage, and they can be defeated in a huge variety of ways (you can drop boxes on them, shoot portals under them, use boxes as body shields for yourself so you can take your time to shoot them with something, etc). Stuff doesn't run at you or chase you around like in most shooters.


There are several "action" type puzzle solutions in Portal 1 where you have to fire portals while falling in and out of portals with your perspective rotation 180 degrees and such. Those are definitely the worst offenders. Portal 2 doesn't have any of those. The puzzles in Portal 2 are definitely more of the "rube goldberg machine" variety, where you have to think like 10 steps ahead, then execute one thing that sets into motion a whole ridiculous sequence of flinging yourself around until you're at your desired end state.
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