All things Final Fantasy

Invisusira's playground

Moderators: Aergis, Invisusira

Re: All things Final Fantasy

Postby Fivelives » Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:42 am

I have a whole shelf full of games that I haven't finished, mostly because I don't really have time to play them. Between work, school, and trying to maintain some semblance of a social life, I don't have much time for gaming at all. It's more rare that I actually finish a game nowadays - hell, it took me close to a week to beat Bayonetta on super-easy (aka Fap difficulty).
- I'm not Jesus, but I can turn water into Kool-Aid.
- A Sergeant in motion outranks an officer who doesn't know what the hell is going on.
- A demolitions specialist at a flat run outranks everybody.
User avatar
Fivelives
 
Posts: 3110
Joined: Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:55 pm

Re: All things Final Fantasy

Postby Eaglestrike » Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:04 am

Fivelives wrote:I have a whole shelf full of games that I haven't finished, mostly because I don't really have time to play them. Between work, school, and trying to maintain some semblance of a social life, I don't have much time for gaming at all. It's more rare that I actually finish a game nowadays - hell, it took me close to a week to beat Bayonetta on super-easy (aka Fap difficulty).


This is why I never finished FF8, it was bad enough that once I got a social life I gave up on it and never went back to finish it. I was at the final dungeon too, but it was too annoying to deal with, didn't like the system, characters, etc. I think a few years later I went back and finished that save, but yeah...years later...lol
Eaglestrike
 
Posts: 423
Joined: Tue May 13, 2008 3:29 am

Re: All things Final Fantasy

Postby fudomyou » Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:54 am

I've spent thousands upon thousands of words venting my venom on XIII, and XIV is not something that will ever, ever touch my computer. However, I have many good FF memories, so I'll share some of them.

Final Fantasy IV/II was the first video game RPG that gave me the "Holy crap, it's 4 hours later" feeling. Looking back on it, the wasn't great (the characters slip in and out of your party so quickly that it's impossible to form any real attachment to their shallowness) but the sound design and the fundamental gameplay was there. The DS version helps flesh out the characters a lot through acting and the little thought bubbles, so the remake fixed a lot of my problems.

Final Fantasy VI/III was a perfect storm for me that addicted me to the genre for years. Amazing soundtrack, some game mechanics I'd never seen before that kept me interested (it took me 4 months to learn how to Bum Rush properly), and a coherent story that gave you at least a decent look at the motivations of the bigger players in the ensemble. I regard this as my favorite video game soundtrack of all time. (Tangent: #1 - FF6. #2 - Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. #3 - Streets of Rage 2. #4 - Sonic the Hedgehog 3)roble

Final Fantasy VII, in my opinion, was a great tech demo for CD sound and 3D graphics, but the story felt both scattered and unfinished at the end. This game also introduced me to the "Well, the world's about to end... let's watch chickens have sex!" syndrome I've come to know and hate. Final Fantasy VIII I played for approximately an hour. In that half hour I used the Draw command 30 times and decided that I hated the system. Then other people showed me early-Squall and I decided that I hated him, so I took a few years off of the franchise. I took Final Fantasy IX off after VIII, and I feel somewhat sad that I can't go back and play this one.

Final Fantasy X was one of the first JRPGs I played after I learned conversational Japanese. The addition of voice acting to the series changed a lot for me. The story and characters felt way more realized, the side quests and mini-games were more integrated into the background of the world, and the climactic confrontation actually made the room dusty for me. The Japanese version of "Wanna have a catch, Dad?" was great. I recognize the flaws of the battle system, but as an overall experience, I rank this as one of my tops.

It's been a bumpy ride for me and Final Fantasy, but thanks to the residual warm fuzzies from 4/6/10, I always at least pay attention when the next FF gets announced. The series has earned that much for shaping my adolescence.
User avatar
fudomyou
Maintankadonor
 
Posts: 680
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:14 am

Re: All things Final Fantasy

Postby KysenMurrin » Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:13 am

Sabindeus wrote:This is a fucking travesty. FF9 had the best ending of: 1) Any FF game ever. 2) Possibly any game ever, I'm on the fence about this one.

The ending story-wise and the final cinematics are great, but I still have no idea what the heck that final boss was or where it came from (the fight that starts at the end of the one with Trance-Kuja).

Seems to be a habit of these games, though - some ultimate boss appears from behind what you thought was the last boss with very little story integration to explain it (see also: Yu Yevon).
Temporarily playing WoW again.
Donnan - Nangun - Kysen - Kysen - Mardun - Timkins

Mostly-Book Blog.
KysenMurrin
 
Posts: 6971
Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:37 am
Location: UK

Re: All things Final Fantasy

Postby Eaglestrike » Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:51 pm

KysenMurrin wrote:
Sabindeus wrote:This is a fucking travesty. FF9 had the best ending of: 1) Any FF game ever. 2) Possibly any game ever, I'm on the fence about this one.

The ending story-wise and the final cinematics are great, but I still have no idea what the heck that final boss was or where it came from (the fight that starts at the end of the one with Trance-Kuja).

Seems to be a habit of these games, though - some ultimate boss appears from behind what you thought was the last boss with very little story integration to explain it (see also: Yu Yevon).


Not sure how much of a habit. I can recall that VII, XII and XIII do not have any "wtf who is this?" bosses. I guess some people might argue XIII did, but you can make a guess right there, they state who/what they are, and it's been foreshadowed for most of the game, so lol.
Eaglestrike
 
Posts: 423
Joined: Tue May 13, 2008 3:29 am

Re: All things Final Fantasy

Postby d3licious » Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:00 pm

I'm sure you guys all have something similar :D

Image

SNES FF3 is hiding in there.
Only one I have not played is 10. I just couldn't do it.
10-2 is not a real game therefore I can't own what is not real.
13... well... again, not for me. Plus I don't really have time to invest at this point.

I got the NES FF as my first game ever(6 years old), and I've been playing them ever since.
User avatar
d3licious
 
Posts: 66
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:13 am
Location: WA State

Re: All things Final Fantasy

Postby Eaglestrike » Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:25 pm

I absolutely loathe the X and X-2 stories/characters, but the X-2 battle system was pretty fun, I liked it.
Eaglestrike
 
Posts: 423
Joined: Tue May 13, 2008 3:29 am

Re: All things Final Fantasy

Postby Sabindeus » Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:16 pm

KysenMurrin wrote:
Sabindeus wrote:This is a fucking travesty. FF9 had the best ending of: 1) Any FF game ever. 2) Possibly any game ever, I'm on the fence about this one.

The ending story-wise and the final cinematics are great, but I still have no idea what the heck that final boss was or where it came from (the fight that starts at the end of the one with Trance-Kuja).

Seems to be a habit of these games, though - some ultimate boss appears from behind what you thought was the last boss with very little story integration to explain it (see also: Yu Yevon).


To be fair, Necron is not a part of the "ending" so what I said doesn't include him.

But yes FF games have a tendency to pull final bosses out of their asses and 9 is no exception. (See also: Zeromus)
Image
Turn In, an NPC interaction automator - http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addo ... rn-in.aspx
User avatar
Sabindeus
Moderator
 
Posts: 10475
Joined: Mon May 14, 2007 9:24 am

Re: All things Final Fantasy

Postby Brand » Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:29 am

Sabindeus wrote:
KysenMurrin wrote:
Sabindeus wrote:This is a fucking travesty. FF9 had the best ending of: 1) Any FF game ever. 2) Possibly any game ever, I'm on the fence about this one.

The ending story-wise and the final cinematics are great, but I still have no idea what the heck that final boss was or where it came from (the fight that starts at the end of the one with Trance-Kuja).

Seems to be a habit of these games, though - some ultimate boss appears from behind what you thought was the last boss with very little story integration to explain it (see also: Yu Yevon).


To be fair, Necron is not a part of the "ending" so what I said doesn't include him.

But yes FF games have a tendency to pull final bosses out of their asses and 9 is no exception. (See also: Zeromus)


NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

*Ahem*

IV is my favorite, and yet even I can't defend Zeromus. I can't think of a single series that did the whole The Man Behind the Man worse than Final Fantasy (although the page does have a host of "good" examples).
"I wonder if there's beer on the sun." - Zap Rowsdower
User avatar
Brand
 
Posts: 269
Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:05 am

Re: All things Final Fantasy

Postby Sabindeus » Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:48 am

Brand wrote:NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

*Ahem*

IV is my favorite, and yet even I can't defend Zeromus. I can't think of a single series that did the whole The Man Behind the Man worse than Final Fantasy (although the page does have a host of "good" examples).


I solve this problem by not trying to defend it. FF4 is an amazing awesomeness made of win, and Zeromus came out of nowhere, but he has awesome music and is thus fine in my book.
Image
Turn In, an NPC interaction automator - http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addo ... rn-in.aspx
User avatar
Sabindeus
Moderator
 
Posts: 10475
Joined: Mon May 14, 2007 9:24 am

Re: All things Final Fantasy

Postby Brutalicus » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:46 pm

Goddammit Brand. You just HAD to throw a TVTropes link in there, didn't you. Why do people always do that when I have shit to do?
Brutalicus, Garona (Horde) Tankadin
User avatar
Brutalicus
 
Posts: 451
Joined: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:29 pm

Re: All things Final Fantasy

Postby Lieris » Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:08 pm

FFX is the only FF I've finished. I liked it a lot. I've been meaning to finish FFX-2 for years but it starts so slowly! :/ I intend to give 4, 6 and 9 a proper go (I started all 3 on PS1 I think but lost my memory card), the others I don't think much of. 7 is especially overrated.

I am really bad at finishing RPGs.
Lieris
Maintankadonor
 
Posts: 2181
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:49 am

Re: All things Final Fantasy

Postby Eaglestrike » Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:14 pm

Starting at VII on, you really need to have played the games when they were released to get a true feel for how good they were. For whatever reason, FFVII looks worse graphically than the 2D predecessors, just because of how things get evaluated. But when it came out, VII was fucking beautiful and cutting edge.

I have a hard time replaying the PSX FF games, but I've gone through a couple old ones and been fine with them, just how it goes.

I still can't understand people enjoying FFX. That whole fake laugh scene with Yuna and Tidus makes me want to punch at least one of them, every time.
Eaglestrike
 
Posts: 423
Joined: Tue May 13, 2008 3:29 am

Re: All things Final Fantasy

Postby Lieris » Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:19 pm

Because it's just one awkward minute in a 40+ hour long game. It's dumb but it shouldn't condemn the entire thing.
Lieris
Maintankadonor
 
Posts: 2181
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:49 am

Re: All things Final Fantasy

Postby Eaglestrike » Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:25 pm

Lieris wrote:Because it's just one awkward minute in a 40+ hour long game. It's dumb but it shouldn't condemn the entire thing.


Oh that's not the only thing that condemns the game. The entire Wakka character having any level of respect/importance angers me. Yuna's entire goal and continuing on with it despite finding out (most of) the truth annoys me. I bet if I could've listened to JP VA's or they had gotten VA's that said it "better" I could've liked it, maybe it would've come out in a way that makes some sort of sense and I can connect with, but the game as it was didn't.

Yuna shouldn't have gone "Oh, so me defeating Sin is only a temp arrangement? Oh well, I'll still sacrifice my life and the lives of my lover." she should have gone "I'm going to break this cycle and find the way to TRULY defeat Sin!". But they had to leave that to Tidus' goal. Yuna was supposed to be the daughter of a "hero", well-respected, intelligent, etc. but she was disappointing.
Eaglestrike
 
Posts: 423
Joined: Tue May 13, 2008 3:29 am

PreviousNext

Return to Arkham Asylum

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

Who is online

In total there is 1 user online :: 0 registered, 0 hidden and 1 guest (based on users active over the past 5 minutes)
Most users ever online was 380 on Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:28 pm

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest