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Re: Almost had a nerdgasm *added pictars*

Postby Fivelives » Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:32 pm

The entire Prime trilogy was loaded with wiigimmicks, like the grapple beam, particle beam, any of the "Hey, here's this lever. Push it" sequences, etc. Considering it's been an IP of Nintendo since the 80s, I'm not sure it can be called "wiigimmick" anymore. Now, if the Metroid games were ports from the Xbox or Playstation, I could see it maybe being called a wiigimmick.

Like the Resident Evil port that got turned into a rail shooter. THAT was a gimmick. Metroid? Not so much.
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Re: Almost had a nerdgasm *added pictars*

Postby Dorvan » Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:19 pm

I'm not sure you caught the intent of Invis' post, which was bemoaning adding motion control elements simply for the purpose of reminding you that you're using a motion control device, rather than because it makes any sort of gameplay sense.
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Re: Almost had a nerdgasm *added pictars*

Postby Fivelives » Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:35 pm

From the default controls:

A button: shoot
B button: jump
C button: morph ball
Z button: scan/pretty much everything else
1 button: map (combined map/menu for prime 1&2)
2 button: menu (hint in prime 3)
down directional pad: missiles
- button: select visor
+ button: hypermode (prime 3)

That doesn't leave much else other than a motion control to toggle 1st/3rd person, unless they ditch hypermode, which I think they will as it doesn't fit the idea of a prequel game. Using the D-pad with the controller in the default "glorified laser pointer" position is pretty tough - at least for me, anyway.

Also, I don't think any Wii exclusive can really be penalized for motion controls. A Wii port of a multi-platform game, though? Sure, mock it to your heart's content for the gimmicky control scheme.
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Re: Almost had a nerdgasm *added pictars*

Postby Lightbeard » Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:35 pm

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Re: Almost had a nerdgasm *added pictars*

Postby Invisusira » Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:23 am

Dorvan wrote:I'm not sure you caught the intent of Invis' post, which was bemoaning adding motion control elements simply for the purpose of reminding you that you're using a motion control device, rather than because it makes any sort of gameplay sense.

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Motion controls simply drag you out of the game you're playing. I don't see how making games less immersive is a good thing.
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Postby Vanifae » Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:36 am

True story, I have not played a Metroid game in probably ten years maybe more.
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Postby Fivelives » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:34 pm

I'm picking it up tonight, I'll let you know if it's really all that immersion-destroying.
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Postby Snake-Aes » Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:29 am

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Re: Almost had a nerdgasm *added pictars*

Postby Melathys » Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:20 am

At the very least, download a SNES emulator and play super metroid. quite simply one of the greatest games ever made. Just thinking about it, I want to play it again.

The metroid prime series. fun, but the 1st person doesn't really feel great for metroid, imo. I played and completed the first one, bought the second, but only played for an hour before I moved on to something else.
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Re: Almost had a nerdgasm *added pictars*

Postby Candiru » Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:47 am

Definitely, Super Metroid is awesomesauce.

I quite liked the GameBoy advance Metroid Fusion, its very similar to Super Metroid, but its somehow too polished to be quite as good as the origional. There is a map with objectives and a plot, rather than a map you are free to explore.
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Re: Almost had a nerdgasm *added pictars*

Postby Chicken » Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:50 am

Candiru wrote:Definitely, Super Metroid is awesomesauce.

I quite liked the GameBoy advance Metroid Fusion, its very similar to Super Metroid, but its somehow too polished to be quite as good as the origional. There is a map with objectives and a plot, rather than a map you are free to explore.
Metroid Zero Mission is also very good. It's got the best of both worlds, while it does have a system in place to tell you where to go, unlike Metroid Fusion it doesn't force you to go there through locked doors and such, you're free to explore wherever you want. I'd say it's the perfect Metroid for someone new to the series due to that.

Super Metroid still has it beat for crazy tricks you can pull to get items before you're supposed to get them though.
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Re: Almost had a nerdgasm *added pictars*

Postby Fivelives » Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:12 pm

Old school 8 bit metroid. Talk about crazy tricks? I remember bomb-jumping up a shaft the equivalent of 4 screens to grab some stuff in that game. You kids these days with your wall jumping and super-speed, sheesh!
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Re: Almost had a nerdgasm *added pictars*

Postby Lightbeard » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:33 pm

Chicken wrote:
Candiru wrote:Definitely, Super Metroid is awesomesauce.

I quite liked the GameBoy advance Metroid Fusion, its very similar to Super Metroid, but its somehow too polished to be quite as good as the origional. There is a map with objectives and a plot, rather than a map you are free to explore.
Metroid Zero Mission is also very good. It's got the best of both worlds, while it does have a system in place to tell you where to go, unlike Metroid Fusion it doesn't force you to go there through locked doors and such, you're free to explore wherever you want. I'd say it's the perfect Metroid for someone new to the series due to that.

Super Metroid still has it beat for crazy tricks you can pull to get items before you're supposed to get them though.


Zero Mission was great. Sadly i lost the game and couldn't finish it.
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Re: Almost had a nerdgasm *added pictars*

Postby Arnock » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:24 pm

Lightbeard wrote:
Zero Mission was great. Sadly i lost the game and couldn't finish it.



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Re: Almost had a nerdgasm *added pictars*

Postby Aubade » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:33 pm

Arnock wrote:
Lightbeard wrote:
Zero Mission was great. Sadly i lost the game and couldn't finish it.



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