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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Fridmarr » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:03 am

firstamendme wrote:The one thing I've noticed that really buggers me up is drinking alcohol. I've noticed that drinking (typically bourbon) destroys my appetite the next day and makes it hard to maintain the inflated caloric values.

Oh bummer, I would have thought that alcoholic drinks would be a help given their caloric density. I wonder if that's a common response at normal calorie consumption (I'm guessing not, or some idiot would have invented the "bourbon diet") or if it's a byproduct of your elevated levels.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby firstamendme » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:34 am

In terms of raw calories I suppose that's true, but I try to hit the number using more nutrient rich options.

I suppose I should specify that when I drink the bourbon and feel the appetite suppression I've probably had anywhere between 8-15 shots worth of it. The only ill after effect I experience the next day is the lack of appetite. It would be an interesting study to see the effect of alcohol on the appetite of people of varying intakes and activity levels since there seems to be a great deal of variance if one is to listen to personal anecdotes.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Sabindeus » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:44 am

firstamendme wrote:Not so amazing the way I did it. It was a form of bulimia (I didn't know that at the time) where the purging is exercise instead of vomiting. I would eat 1100 calories a day and burn 1900-2000 per day through exercise. I looked like a concentration camp survivor at the end. Luckily I was 17 years old so my body didn't suffer any permanent damage through such rapid (~11 months) loss and abuse.


I dunno dude that sounds pretty amazing to me. I wish I could have done that when I was 17.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Fivelives » Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:40 am

Fridmarr wrote:Well the other difference is taste. Homemade can be customized to your tastes.

Conditioners and preservatives aren't necessarily the same thing. Homemade bread, properly stored, will last 4-5 days and it can be frozen. I don't have a problem with store bought bread either, just read the labels and you'll find some breads that use only whole grain flours.


Bread generally doesn't have preservatives added to it. They add conditioners to keep it from going stale, and the seal on a bread bag is surprisingly good for how simple it is. If a preservative is added, it's usually something like cultured wheat starch or cultured whey. It's cheaper to use those, as they're byproducts of bread production to begin with - cultured wheat starch is basically just dried sourdough, for example.

I've always found that freezing and refrigerating bread makes it go stale faster. Probably because the cold temperature hardens the protein (like what happens after cooked rice gets cold) and forces the water to migrate out. I'm not entirely sure why though, and it could just be purely anecdotal on my part.

As far as taste is concerned, that's a good reason for preferring your own bread. Whenever I've got the time to do any serious home cooking, I generally make my own dinner rolls and suchnot. I prefer storebought for the convenience though.

I'm a sucker for sourdough bread. So I don't generally buy many whole grain breads - other than rye breads for sandwiches (I prefer the darker rye breads for my sandwiches, and sourdough for toast and grilled sandwiches). Nothing wrong with either choice really (enriched flour breads vs whole grain flour breads), especially not in moderation. So buy - or bake - whatever tastes best for you.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Fridmarr » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:41 pm

Conditioners are designed to keep the texture of the bread consistent longer, in other words they fight off going stale.  Preservatives will generally inhibit mold growth.  Depending on the bread manufacturer, some of either can be added, and some things fall in both categories.  They aren't adding HFCS to feed the yeast...
 
I don't think anyone said anything about refridgerating bread, and with good reason, because it will make your bread go stale faster.  As I said though, freezing is just fine if you need it to last awhile.  You can also generally freeze the dough if you make extra and want to save it for later.
 
There absolutely is a considerable difference between bread made with only enriched white flour and bread made from only whole grain flour.  Enriched flour bread is basically pure starch as by comparison it contains more carbs, less (if any) fiber, and less protein, and so you get an appropriate glycemic response.  You should almost treat it in the same vein as sugar. 
 
The higher fiber and protein in whole grain bread staves off the insulin rush and increases the satiety of the bread.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:13 am

I'm in Ottawa for Thanksgiving and went to the YMCA (my gym) here for some lifting while on holidays.

HOLY SHIT THEY HAVE DEADLIFT PLATFORMS AND LOAAAAAAADS OF SQUAT RACKS AND NO ONE IS USING THEM.

Was heavenly.

AND, they had like... massive weights for the deadlift bars so that even though the weight is lower, the size of the weight is big enough that you can do proper movement without overextending. WAS AMAZING. And for the first time ever, deadlifts felt normal. Man, I wish they had these at the one in downtown Toronto that I go to... but there's really no space for these things.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Fridmarr » Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:02 pm

Was just filling out my worksheet for my next four weeks of workouts, and I realized that if I'm able to hit all the weight increments, I'll be in personal best territory for everything but bench (and I'm unlikely to ever see a personal best on bench again anyhow). On one side that keeps the motivation high for now, but if it becomes a struggle I know I'll have to work hard to stay motivated through the disappointment. Either way though, it was a proud moment to realize those goals are in sight.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nooska » Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:13 am

Just popping into this thread to say...
Walking is really something that can give you a high feeling.

We went for a walk on the medium/short lenght clover trail (a concept they've put out with marked trails in 4 lengths around a central hun in som of our suburbia) on sunday - just to get some air, since we didn't have anything to do - that was a nice walk of roughly 5 miles through some rain, but a lot of dryness while walking through the forest.
When home we felt pretty used, but also quite well off.

Monday the GF wanted to go to the bakery for some scones and a cinnamonstick (danish pastry), since we had been good and exercised on sunday I said okay. After getting home we got a text that the book she reserve off a library in the other end of the country had come home, she wanted to go pick that up, so we did. On the way home I suggested (jokingly) that we could extend the walk by going past our place and down and take a stroll around the (small) lake thats nearby - she said okay. I thought I'd push it a bit, and said, we could also circle it twice (the path around the lake itself is about half a mile) - she one-upped me and suggested we instead walk down to where our local petstore moved to (round trip thats just over 3 miles) - I said okay, but I wanted to go into the 'hardware' store to buy some preserve jars (for keeping my honey cake starter in for the month it has to sit), not far out of the way, just about another half mile on it. Going home we went the full circle around the lake (we pass by part of it when going to the pet store).
Safely home I check and we've walked around 6½ miles at this point.
I check my recipe and realize I don't have any organic wheat flour (for honeycakes I want organic) - so I ask if we can go get some, GF says 'yes, but where do you want to get it' - I reply with a 'specialty' supermarket thats in the mall we usually walk to around 3 times per week - she looks at me and asks if I'm kidding (round trip 3 miles), I say no, then she replies, okay, but then I want to eat at KFC on the way home - sure I say (knowing how many calories we've burned off by walking already, and that we often eat there on the way home, as the walk back and forth make the calorie count of it about the same net as a light lunch staying home.
While walking home I joke that I want to take an evening walk as well, something she rejects, but I still manage to convince her later, so we take another walk down to the lake and twice around.
Adding up when back home, I can tally up 11½ miles walked on monday.

Tuesday we have an 'appointment' to go to "dyrehaven" - a large animal reservation (basically), established by one of the kings of old as a private hunting ground (presently its one of the largest areas where we can see (semi-)wild sika deer, fallow deer and red deer (called "Crown deer - historically it was the prerogative of the crown to hunt red deer) - it being mating season it is a very visited area. Walking to borrow the car (to drive there), walking around out there and walking back after returning the car, tallied up to 6½ miles.

We decided yesterday to go buy some proper walking shoes for the GF, as she got blisters from walking so much in her shoes (they were never meant for walking so much). So we walk to our 'local' mall and buy thenm, then we decide to walk out to another mall where we have a blockbuster subscription, to return a BD for another (and 'reward' ourselves with some bread/cake from the local Lidl (they have bake-off, so its pretty fresh, and very cheap) - we did end up taking the train home due to sore legs and feet on the part of the GF, not that I can blame her in any way, tallying up todays 6 miles, we've walked 29 miles over the past 4 days, and not once has ourgeneral fitness said stop, just soreness from not being used to doing it so much.

The funny thing is I don't think I would have had any problem walking home instead of taking the train, adding another 2 miles (the way back minus the way from the train station and home).

Walking is such a high - we've agreed to take it a bit easy tomorrow and friday so she can break in her new shoes, so likely we won't do anything more than the sunday walk, big question is if we can keep it to that (the feeling after the long walk on monday was awesome - tired, but awesome).
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Sabindeus » Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:53 pm

Walking usually gives me a sweaty feeling rather than a high feeling.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Sabindeus » Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:54 pm

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I've been really bad about using my standing desk, I think I need to set up a notification to remind me to stop sitting down every so often.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Delphineas » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:48 am

So I've wanted to get in shape for a while now, but didn't want to get into a routine and have to interrupt it for 6 weeks after my surgery. Well. 66 weeks have passed and I'm going to try and start Monday. Probably will do pushups and situps Monday, Wednesday, Friday, but is there anything else I should be doing at home? I have no weights or driers liscense, but my dad has an exercise bike.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Arnock » Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:47 pm

Pushups and situps are probably low-impact enough to do daily, though I'm unsure of this.

One thing to do, is make sure you progressively increase the amount of pushups/situps that you can do.

Say, for example, on week 1 you can only do 5 sets of 5 pushups.

The next week, try 5 sets of 6, or 6 sets of 5, etc.

Keep pushing yourself to do better each week.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:37 pm

I'm getting seriously tired of seeing 150-151 lbs. on the scale without going any lower. I've been seeing it since May (with occasional increases to 155 and then back down again). I think I'm going to go absolutely batshit insane on cardio (on top of my regular sports and weightlifting) for the next two weeks to force myself out of this self-induced plateau. (Posting it here so I now *have* to do it! ;) )


Delphineas, what's your activity level? Are you used to regular exercise? Or are you pretty much starting from scratch? And what's your goal? Weight loss? Toning up? Without knowing any of that, it's kind of hard to tell you what to do... but I can say give the 30 Day Shred (Jillian Michaels) a try for general fitness levels. You don't need weights (or you can just use canned foods at home if you really want) and you can either download it or play it on YouTube. It's a 30 minutes or under workout and I've used it frequently in the last two years.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Sabindeus » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:57 pm

week 4 of going to the gym: hurt my knee doing side lunges. :|

i think. I'm not entirely clear on what activity specifically put my knee into its current state, it could have been overuse or insufficient stretching based on my internet research. All I know is that bending my knee aches and squatting hurts. My trainer says we can work around it, so eager to see what happens tomorrow.

Meanwhile I'm going to go see my orthopedist next week to make sure this isn't a real injury. (I don't think it hurts enough to be any kneecap nonsense but how the fuck would i know)
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:13 pm

I'm impressed you're going to the doctor so quickly. (Sucks about the injury though.) Part of it may just be underuse over all the years and now suddenly you're putting your limbs through the ringer with all the exercise.

So you're four weeks in - surely you're noticing some changes by now? Either in your clothing or on the scale?
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