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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Sabindeus » Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:28 pm

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I'm not sure I like the whole "change your lifestyle" thing. I've heard it said so many times without any real substance that I'm not really sure what it's supposed to mean.

For me, it meant "have one burrito, not two (like I used to)". It meant making sure I was aware of how many "treats" I had in a day. It meant not having that afternoon cookie that originally started out as a once a week thing and instead turned into a once a day thing.

I don't know if this helps, it never really worked for me as I find it kind of degrading, but some people tell themselves: "Don't reward yourself with food, you're not a dog." I guess the easier pill to swallow is just because you had a long day, doesn't mean you get to binge eat whatever's in sight. (Not saying you do, just that it's easy for any of us to slip into that mentality.)

I like your changes though... cooking for yourself, etc. That's all positive stuff!


Yeah that makes sense. My family had the food = reward thing fairly heavily ingrained into us so breaking that has been a challenge.

I suppose if all that counts as "lifestyle" then I guess I'm nailing it. I honestly always thought people used it to mean something outside of just your attitude towards food. e.g. I haven't changed all the video games I play. Although I have had to schedule them around going to the gym in the evenings, but I've had to schedule video games around more important things for my entire adult life, so that's nothing new. I will say though that after going to the gym the past couple of weeks, I've found I can't play anything due to being way too tired. So all my twitchy stuff happens on days I don't go (like I just got done remembering how annoying Kingdom Hearts is without Glide), and my passive entertainment consumption happens on days I do (catching up on that anime).
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Arnock » Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:46 pm

I think the whole, "Change your lifestyle" thing is meant to combat the idea of dieting.


Most people will go on a diet/exercise regiment for awhile, and once they lose their target amount of weight, will return to old, poor eating habits.


Basically, just eat healthier and exercise more for life, rather than just doing an x-week long bootcamp and going right back to where you started.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Fridmarr » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:31 pm

The problem with diets is that they are usually deprivation based...low carbs, low fat, low calories, no gluten, no "subtropic" fruits, no below ground vegetables etc. The result is that they work just fine while you are on them, but they tend to be unsustainable because people can't stick with them forever. They just become a battle of willpower trying to stop eating foods you enjoy, and eating should not be a battle.

By eating unprocessed foods, you are still eating the same foods, just a healthier version of them. A version that not only often is better nutritionally, but that actually makes you feel full faster so you eat less.

Most preservatives are not added to food to make it taste better, they are added to make the food shelf stable (that is, so that even bacteria and molds don't want it, or to slow oxidization) and/or cheaper. When you make pizza sauce at home, you probably wouldn't add high fructose corn syrup (HFCS), or tomato concentrate, and if you used quality ripened tomatoes you wouldn't add any sugar at all. However, HFCS does have a taste, it's sweet but also leaves an after taste, so often to mask that more salt or fat is added to cover it up. Processing of foods often adds extra sugars, salts, and fats as preservatives and then more to mask the taste of the preservatives. On top of that, the processing often removes the fiber (like using tomato concentrate instead of whole real tomatoes). Fillers in meat reduce the protein content and the natural fat content (pink slime anyone...)

That fat, protein, and fiber all helps you feel full and satisfied. If you want a burger eat a burger, but put it on a whole grain bun, and find some good toppings to amp up the fiber (lettuce, onions, pickles, mushrooms, jalapeños etc), and pair it with a salad. You'll enjoy it just as much (if not more) and you'll be very satisfied after eating it, making you less likely to indulge on something bad later.

It's work, cooking meals from scratch using quality ingredients. You may have to relearn how to shop to find the products that aren't processed. However, it won't take long though before you start realizing that the foods are much tastier and eating the processed version is gross (a lot of restaurant food will taste ridiculously salty). At that point, you'll be eating healthier with absolutely no desire to do anything else. You will have made a lifestyle change that would be hard to break even if you wanted too.

PS: Exercise is great too of course, lots of great benefits, but when it comes to weight, diet is a much stronger factor than exercise.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby katraya » Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:17 am

Arnock wrote:On a somewhat related note, does anyone know of a decent chili recipe?


I've been hearing really good things about this recipe but I haven't tried it yet:
http://thugkitchen.com/post/60458769387 ... e-football


Amirya, do you have a crock pot? I absolutely love mine simply because I can come home and dinner is done. If there's a 8ish hour gap between when you throw the food together and when you eat, maybe it will be more appealing.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:46 am

Sabindeus wrote:Yeah that makes sense. My family had the food = reward thing fairly heavily ingrained into us so breaking that has been a challenge.

I suppose if all that counts as "lifestyle" then I guess I'm nailing it. I honestly always thought people used it to mean something outside of just your attitude towards food. e.g. I haven't changed all the video games I play. Although I have had to schedule them around going to the gym in the evenings, but I've had to schedule video games around more important things for my entire adult life, so that's nothing new. I will say though that after going to the gym the past couple of weeks, I've found I can't play anything due to being way too tired. So all my twitchy stuff happens on days I don't go (like I just got done remembering how annoying Kingdom Hearts is without Glide), and my passive entertainment consumption happens on days I do (catching up on that anime).

You may be tired now Sab, but you'll find that with continued exercise you'll actually start to have more energy.

I'm proud of you though. Really. We basically told you you weren't ready for this (based on previous conversations) and you said "fuck you" and signed up for a gym. Good on you.

So what kind of things are you doing at the gym? How are you finding it/liking it? Also, how often are you going? Make sure you give yourself enough rest days in a week.

I hate the word diet just because it doesn't have to mean food restriction. Maybe it's easier to say dietary intake since it sounds less like enforced caloric restriction.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Shoju » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:13 am

Arnock wrote:On a somewhat related note, does anyone know of a decent chili recipe?


Well, if you are in to trying something different, I have a White Lightning Chicken Chili Recipe, and I took 2nd place in a Chili Cookoff Saturday (See: Post your Successes).

Now, my chili recipe, is... a little daunting, as far as time is concerned. I easily wrapped up 3 hours in prep / initial cook time on Friday Night, and then another 3 hours of "Real cooking" time on Saturday.

But, I started with everything at "base" The only thing that was already cooked, was the seasoned rotisserie chicken, because otherwise... That's another couple of hours cooking chicken, and a Rotisserie chicken fits the bill of being all the chicken I need for a pot that feeds 5-7 with leftovers, cuts out time, and is fairly cheap. I normally get them from Kroger or Sam's Club for.... 5 bucks a bird.

it's also.... "Fairly healthy" as in, I make sure to use low fat / no fat / reduced sodium / sodium free ingredients when I can, and I don't use "much" of the skin of the chicken. (I use some purely for cooking, but remove before serving)

If you're interested, PM me, and I'll give you the low down.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Fivelives » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:39 pm

For my no bean chili (beans are an abomination and should NEVER contaminate chili, but some heathens think otherwise. Blasphemers!), I came up with my own slow cooker recipe:

1lb ground beef
1lb sweet italian sausage
1lb chorizo
2x 28oz can peeled and stewed whole plum tomatoes (crush them in by hand. Excessive flexing and/or manliness is encouraged)
14oz can diced tomato with chilis (Safeway has a really nice can of mixed tomatoes with jalapenos that works well)
14oz can diced tomato
medium sized can of tomato paste (not sure how many ounces, I know tomato paste comes in some pretty oddball sizes)
1 large onion, diced (about 1 1/2-2 cups worth)
1-2 green peppers, diced (about 1 1/2-2 cups worth)
3-4 cloves garlic, minced
2tbsp italian seasoning blend
1tsp kosher salt
1tsp fresh ground black pepper
2tbsp + 1tsp chili powder
1tsp cayenne pepper

Brown the meat, drain it, and toss everything in the slow cooker on low for at least 12 hours. Adjust spices for heat and personal taste. This makes about 20 servings or so, but it can easily be halved. I don't know why anyone would ever halve a chili recipe though, because really... who doesn't love leftover chili?

Serve over a slab of fresh made cornbread and garnish with chives and sour cream, enjoy.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Amirya » Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:30 pm

Ooo, that looks good.

To answer Kat's question, I didn't think we had a slow cooker (I don't even know how to use it), so I ordered one from my company's "pick your own winter holiday gift" program they have. Then I found out we do have one, but it's too late now. :lol:

I may have to try that recipe, though. The most annoying part would be the onion, peppers, and garlic, but I don't get stupid picky over if they're cut in precise pieces or not.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Sabindeus » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:34 pm

Nikachelle wrote:
Sabindeus wrote:Yeah that makes sense. My family had the food = reward thing fairly heavily ingrained into us so breaking that has been a challenge.

I suppose if all that counts as "lifestyle" then I guess I'm nailing it. I honestly always thought people used it to mean something outside of just your attitude towards food. e.g. I haven't changed all the video games I play. Although I have had to schedule them around going to the gym in the evenings, but I've had to schedule video games around more important things for my entire adult life, so that's nothing new. I will say though that after going to the gym the past couple of weeks, I've found I can't play anything due to being way too tired. So all my twitchy stuff happens on days I don't go (like I just got done remembering how annoying Kingdom Hearts is without Glide), and my passive entertainment consumption happens on days I do (catching up on that anime).

You may be tired now Sab, but you'll find that with continued exercise you'll actually start to have more energy.

I'm proud of you though. Really. We basically told you you weren't ready for this (based on previous conversations) and you said "fuck you" and signed up for a gym. Good on you.

So what kind of things are you doing at the gym? How are you finding it/liking it? Also, how often are you going? Make sure you give yourself enough rest days in a week.

I hate the word diet just because it doesn't have to mean food restriction. Maybe it's easier to say dietary intake since it sounds less like enforced caloric restriction.



blarghle i am so tired

So my trainer mostly has me doing TRX stuff: squats, lunges, rowing. Also it seems like he invents a new stretch every time we have a session. I'm doing Tuesday and Thursday PT sessions and then he gives me weekend homework which is basically just cardio (elliptical machine). So i think that's plenty of rest days.

The word diet just literally means what you eat, so that's how I use it. :p Calling it a lifestyle change is misleading and silly imo. Better to reclaim the word from the shmucks who come up with new crazy ways to starve yourself than to let them win.

Can anyone recommend an easy to clean blender? I was talking with one of my co-workers today about frozen fruit and he has something similar to the Magic Bullet but doesn't know what brand exactly. I'm thinking since every time I try to buy fruit, it ends up spoiling, it would be good to just get it frozen and make some smoothies every so often.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Arnock » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:32 pm

I have a generic Black and Decker blender. It works well, and cleanup only really requires that I run the blender with warm water and a drop of dish soap on the "clean" setting for a minute or two.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Amirya » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:20 pm

Why not just slice up the fruit and shove it in the freezer?
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nooska » Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:58 am

Shoju wrote: If you're interested, PM me, and I'll give you the low down.

According to the success thread, we are now 3 people interested ;-)

@Fivelives; when you say it serves 20, that sounds like a lot to me (based on the 1 lb of ground beef), is that because of the bread?)*

What is "Kosher salt"?
Green peppers is bell peppers, right?

I can see right off that I need to adjust the recipe (like taking out the onion, will probably add some leek instead), but definatly looks like something worth trying - just need to translate it to metric ;)

*ooh, just noticed theres 2 additional pounds of meat in the sausage and chorizo - could you elaborate on the "sweet italian sausage, as that description probably won't carry over well for a european-
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Fivelives » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:31 am

Kosher salt is a coarse salt that used to be used for preserving, or "koshering" meats and fish. It's available at any supermarket for roughly the same price as table salt. It's better for cooking, since it's harder to overseason foods with it, so you get a lot of leeway as far as improving the flavor of something without making it taste salty.

If you don't have a slow cooker, you can use an oven at low temperatures overnight instead, but it's definitely cheaper electric-wise to run a slow cooker instead of an oven. Far less wasted energy.

It's actually 3 pounds of ground meats. One pound of ground beef, one pound of sweet italian sausage, and one pound of chorizo. A serving of chili is about one cup. I've got a 20 cup slow cooker (5qt) and it fills it to the brim every time I make this. So yeah, 20 servings.

Green pepper is a bell pepper, yeah.

I wouldn't suggest substituting leeks for the onion. Try out different onions, to see which kind you like the best. I eat sweet white onions raw like an apple, because I love the flavor (and the looks you get from random people watching are HILARIOUS), but an onion can range from mild/sweet all the way up to sharp/OHGODDON'TEATBEFOREAFIRSTDATEHOLYSHIT. Something on the sweeter end would probably suit you better, but leeks are related to both onions and garlic, so substituting those would give a different taste and texture. If you're dead set on using leeks, lower the amount of garlic you use to avoid that. It'll definitely be blander, but ehh...
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:03 am

My parents (read: my mom) has decided to go wheat free right before Thanksgiving. THANKS MOM.

I guess they're trying to lose weight and my mom started reading all of this "wheat belly" crap that's put it in her mind that she needs to totally cut it out of her diet for the next six months. I HATE FAD DIETS. When I went home in June, I helped my mom track her calories on MFP and while she was eating quite good quality foods, at the end of the day she was consuming far, FAR too much. She's early 60s, the most amount of exercise she gets is on a treadmill with an incline every few days or so and she was consuming somewhere between 2600-3000 calories per day. And she wonders why she isn't losing weight. I couldn't even eat that much when I work out 6 days a week and even just hope to maintain - I'd definitely be packing on the pounds and I'm 30 years younger! I tried to point out what she needs to do, but I don't think she can be bothered to log the calories. So instead... wheat-free diet.

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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Fivelives » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:24 am

Fad diets will always be a thing, especially so long as they get celebrity endorsements. Celebs endorse products and diets all the time, but they never mention the work they put into maintaining their picture-perfect forms.

However, at least one person is. I happened to catch the Ellen show yesterday (for some strange reason. I think my DVR hates me - I'm never home to change the channel, it does it for me when my shows record) and there was Kate Hudson on it endorsing a line of fitness wear she'd launched - called "fabletics" - and talking about how much time and effort she puts into staying in shape. You might want to go that route in convincing your mom that she needs to put in effort rather than relying on whatever fads come down the pipeline, Nika. It just might work... if you've already tried everything else.
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