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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Shoju » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:11 pm

Nikachelle wrote:I've been following your weight loss and it's been awesome!

As for shoes, it's really more about what fits your foot best (in terms of brands. For example, Nike feels super uncomfortable to me.). I've been a loyal supporter of Adidas for years, and have never had a shoe fall apart on me prematurely. My last pair of running shoes from Adidas lasted three years (and in those three years, I walked 5k every day Monday through Friday to and from work and ran over 400km) before I bought new ones. My new shoes are solely for running now... which means I'm still walking to and from work every day in my previous pair. On average, I spend about $100 for them. Maybe $140 at a push.

Do you have any specialty shoe stores near you? We have something called The Running Room here (it may even be a US company) and they can match you to shoes that best suit you.


Thank you :) It's been a lot more gratifying than I thought it would be in the beginning. In the past couple of weeks, I went unrecognized by someone I've known for 15 years (weight loss + Long hair + attempt at Goatee made me Incognito), and I even got hit on at the gas station... That was.. both flattering, and a little creepy all at the same time.

Even with the weight loss starting to slow down, I'm still confident that I can lose another 10 pounds before my anniversary, which should make for some highly entertaining pictures. I plan to take photos in the same outfit I wore last year. Which means by Christmas, I could be down 100 pounds. That would be frekking awesome.

For shoe stores, Nothing real specialty around here. There's Foot Locker, Champs, and a plethora of "Famous Footwear" type places. I'm normally an avid Adidas guy, I've been wearing them.... Oh... most of my life. But I saw these Puma's, and I loved them. They felt comfortable. But, they've just fallen to pieces on me.

I am definitely looking for a pair of shoes that I'll just be using to jog / exercise in. It might be time to travel to Columbus and see what they have.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nooska » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:06 pm

Just thought I'd clock in (to make myself more committed).
Been trying to lose weight inactively for a while, wondered why I wasn't since I was not eating as much as I supposedly could and still lose weight, so started registering my food intake ~4 weeks ago. Result from just registering, and not doing anything significant aprt from that; 4.7 kg loss over 4 weeks - apparently I was eating a lot I didn't register consciously that I was eating.

Current weight: 270 lbs (rounded up)
Goal: 210 lbs
Time frame: 25 weeks (if not sooner)
Primary method: watching what I eat (without actually dieting)
Secondary method: walking to burn off excess calories (so only taking the bus if my body won't support walking (knee issues) or the weather means I won't get done what I need to do)
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Cogglamp » Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:48 pm

I'll chime in here on the shoes thing.

I highly suggest you find a real running store to help you determine what type of shoe you need. Instead of focusing on brands, you need to figure out whether you are a neutral/normal pronator, under pronator or over pronator. If you have ankle and knee issues, this really is a must. You should also look at your arches and figure out if you need special support. If you can't find a specialty running store, try this:

http://www.runningshoesguru.com/2009/03 ... supinator/

Once you figure out what type of motion you have, then you can figure out the shoes. All the running shoe brands will be able to cater to whatever type of runner you might be.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Fivelives » Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:19 am

As far as running shoes are concerned, have you considered a visit to a podiatrist? They generally don't charge that much for an office visit, and they do accept insurance. It's their job to be up to speed on various shoes and foot types - and even if they can't recommend a specific shoe to you they can tell you what to be on the lookout for, and you can bring that information to a shoe salesman.

Each running shoe manufacturer tends to be better for certain types of feet and worse for others. I used to be a diehard Nike fan, until I was advised by a podiatrist to look into New Balance, as I've got relatively flat (and VERY wide) feet and low arches. I never had shin splints again, after switching from Nike to New Balance.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:06 am

So the American Medical Association has decided to recognize obesity as a disease.

I cannot stop rolling my eyes.



(And before someone starts trashing on me, I'm not talking about genetic conditions which predispose people to abnormal weight gain that they are BORN with. Not a condition you got because of poor dietary choices.)
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Shoju » Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:18 am

Well, I can understand your eye rolling. Part of me has a very similar reaction.

but then I look at the bureaucratic red tape in this country, and I realized something. This is about the only way that they can "actively" work to curb obesity. Health Insurances will charge you more for being overweight, but very few of them actually have tools to help people who want to lose the weight, change their lives.

Now that it's classified as a disease, the pressure can be put on them to work to give people access to more tools to promote healthy lifestyles.

While I do roll my eyes at it, I think I roll my eyes more at the fact that as a country, we have to label something like an unhealthy lifestyle as a disease to put pressure on our insurance / health care provider's / big box stores to promote healthy living.

On the plus side, I found out that a guy I graduated with is a Fitness trainer. He lives out of state now, but will be back to visit his parents soon, and is going to cut out a couple of hours to go shoe shopping with me to help me pick something out that fits my foot.

I am an over pronator "now". My Orthopedic surgeon said that My right foot will probably always be Over, due to the damage to my ankle. Curse you soccer injuries. I'm not sure if, as I lose more weight, and get more active my left foot will return to a more neutral form or not.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Cogglamp » Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:37 am

Just to give you fair warning, when you go shoe shopping, it can be overwhelming.

Given your weight and over-pronation, you should look for something with a fair amount of stability. Do not get sold on picking up a lightweight trainer. The lightweight trainers are for more serious runners who have gotten their body used to running. There's no doubt that you can get yourself there but not right off the bat.

You haven't asked for it but I'll give you my opinion on shoe companies that you should look at when the time comes:

Asics
Brooks
Saucony
New Balance

I've found them to be the best of the bunch and I've logged some substantial miles in my day. They're not sexy brands but they make great product.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Shoju » Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:56 am

Cogglamp wrote:Just to give you fair warning, when you go shoe shopping, it can be overwhelming.

Given your weight and over-pronation, you should look for something with a fair amount of stability. Do not get sold on picking up a lightweight trainer. The lightweight trainers are for more serious runners who have gotten their body used to running. There's no doubt that you can get yourself there but not right off the bat.

You haven't asked for it but I'll give you my opinion on shoe companies that you should look at when the time comes:

Asics
Brooks
Saucony
New Balance

I've found them to be the best of the bunch and I've logged some substantial miles in my day. They're not sexy brands but they make great product.



I'm definitely looking for something with stability. When I was young, I played a ton of soccer, and a blind side slide tackle at 17 reduced my right ankle to a bag of bone fragments, torn tendons, and grossness. 3 screws and a plate later, I was back up and walking, but it definitely changed the way I walk, run, etc... forever.

Even before I almost died (the catalyst event to my weight gain), my ankle was weak and prone for failure. 6 months on bedrest, and an unhealthy fast food lifestyle for 10 years later, and it's no better.

I used to complain about my knees more so than my ankle. I never had anything "terrible" happen to them, just simple cleaning procedures. But at 293 pounds, that is what hurt. They screamed, they ached. I was afraid I was going to be forced into more serious procedures on them.

60 pounds later, and they ache, but nothing terrible. nothing that's intolerable, or more than a couple of Ibuprofen to deal with. I played soccer and baseball from a very young age, It's no surprise that now in my 30's they ache.

But my ankle? Well, I'm afraid that eventually, they are going to have to do something more with it. I hope that this pain is just a "phase" in the weight loss. Now that the majority of my weight isn't crushing my knees, I'm feeling it more in my feet, as I walk. We'll see how it feels in 40 pounds when I'm firmly back down under 200. I don't want no stinkin' surgeries if I don't have to.

Thanks for the tips on brands. I'm not much of a "brand guy". I wear Adidas, mainly because as a kid, It was Adidas cleats for soccer (and baseball), and then Samba's for the indoor season. Adidas used to be (not sure now) a huge supporter in the area for kids sports. They would bend over backwards for kids.

And it was good marketing. These Puma's I have are the first non Adidas shoes I've owned in a very long time.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Fivelives » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:57 pm

See an orthopedist for a referral to a podiatrist. Seriously. Until then, I wouldn't fuck around with the ankle injury - things like "old sports injuries" aren't something that you should even begin to follow the "push through the pain!" advice that fitness trainers will give you. Aggravating those can have some SERIOUS consequences down the line, and while you may be doing alright now, in a year or so that can/will probably change to the point where you're right back to where you started before your workout plan, except with the stigma of "lifetime cripple" added to the mix.

Why are people so anti-podiatrist? If you want to run, they're the people you go to to find the shoes/inserts/etc you need to do so. Once you've got the proper equipment, THEN you go to a trainer.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Amirya » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:20 pm

So I don't know how to classify this issue.

Diagnosed with diabetes two years ago or so. Started off with medications that seemed to help, then WHAM! Ineffective. Increased dosage? Ineffective. Improved diet drastically? Ineffective. Exercising regularly? Ineffective. Less calorie intake, more calorie burning? Can't lose weight either. But my thyroid appears to be normal.

Finally seem to have the medication issue fixed, the blood sugars are improving even from two weeks ago. I guess that's a good thing.

But by improving my diet (more veggies, less sweets; more water, less soda), I also find that while I can like the appearance of food, I am slowly finding the taste to be more and more unappealing. Now when I say, "I'm not hungry," it's not because I'm not hungry/am full from the previous meal, it's because I'd rather not eat at all. Which I can't do, considering the medication I'm on.

And by adding regular exercise, I've come to the conclusion I'm either a freak of nature, or someone(s) is a big fat liar. Exercising - for me - doesn't make me "feel better," it makes me feel violent and aggressive. I'm not a pleasant person to talk to the rest of the evening. My mood swings are a lot worse, even a sneeze can piss me off. I can't comment on if it makes me "look better," because frankly, I don't give a half-fuck how I look (so I neither look nor ask).

Plus, this shit is expensive. I'm tempted to just dump it all, and if I die before 40 due to diabetes, so be it.

I know that depression can go hand in hand with my PCOS, but I don't think I've ever heard of improved health leading to aggresive outbursts either.

Any direction would be appreciated, 'cause I'm just clueless now.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:38 pm

My dad has always told me that exercising makes him feel euphoric. I have no idea what the heck he's talking about. I've never felt euphoric from exercise (neither during nor after). If anything, I find a lot of my drive to exercise is literally fueled by rage. Nothing makes me run longer or faster than when I think about something that truly and completely angers me. However, you seem to feel anger afterwards? Is it maybe because you feel what you're doing is having no effect? Or maybe you just dislike your form of exercise?

If you have PCOS, I've heard there are a lot of problems with just losing weight the "normal" way. Now, I can't remember if that was because of a dietary thing, or what. Have you looked into what works in terms of diet/exercise for people who have PCOS?

The other thing I'll ask... and be as honest as you can be with yourself (you don't need to answer here), are you TRULY honest about your food intake? Often people think they're eating far less than they actually are (case in point my mother... I went home last week and added up daily calories for her when she told me she couldn't figure out why she wasn't losing weight. It was a simple case of just too many calories consumed per day even though they were healthy calories.) I'd encourage use of a program like My Fitness Pal (free online and there's also a free iphone or android app) that helps you count your calories.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Amirya » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:54 pm

I use MFP, but I'm actually thinking of trying something else (or really really going tight on the foods).

As for the anger, it exists on the way to the gym, during the workout (whether with the trainer or not, and he's a very nice guy), and afterwards as well. The form of exercise, in of itself, doesn't bother me - I can say I dislike the eliptical, am indifferent to the treadmill, like the bike, and can tolerate the various weight machines. It could be the repitions, it could be the "what the hell is the point?" feeling, I'm not sure there.

And no, I haven't looked into PCOS-specific diet/exercise, because I hadn't heard that actually. :) Thanks
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:05 pm

I happen to watch a weight loss update for a woman that has PCOS. I have no idea if what she's referring to may help you (or not) but she does talk briefly about how PCOS has affected her. The youtube channel is http://www.youtube.com/projectnotfat and the person you're looking for there is Sarah. I think she mentions PCOS the most in her first few videos.

I would feel pretty irritated towards working out and eating right as well if I didn't think it was going anywhere. Your resentment towards exercise may stem from that. Anyway, I hope the PCOS stuff helps you out.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Amirya » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:20 pm

Thank you very much! I'll take a look tonight (while I shamefully happily install my new Sims 3 expansion). :)
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:29 pm

So I was going through my personal photos just now and was taken aback by a few of them. As some of you know, I've been doing a lot of working out and losing weight lately. And you can definitely see progress. Since I always find picture proof as motivation, I thought I'd post a few on here. For reference, I'm 5'3".

First off, as a starting point, this is what I looked like before I started playing WoW. I have zero idea how much I weighed, but looking at that shot I see some chub, but nothing too crazy as I was playing soccer about 5 times a week during this phase of my life. This was probably around 2005.

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As I started playing WoW, and playing less and less sports, my weight shot up. This is what I looked like when Invis and I met for the first time in 2010. Definite weight gain. Would probably guess I weighed around 185 there.

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Over the course of playing WoW more and more (and the oh so glorious weight gain that came with the first year of marriage) I hit my highest weight around 196 pounds. This picture is actually frightening to me and I didn't even realize I had it as I was deleting any full body shots I didn't like of myself at the time (which was EVERYTHING). Never in my life did I actually think I looked like what this picture looks like. Yuck.

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Determined to lose weight, I lost about 20 pounds before we had our wedding (one year after we got married at city hall). So I'd dropped to roughly 175 pounds:

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However, I didn't stop after the wedding.

I think I was around roughly 160 pounds:

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And these are at 150 pounds:

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I'm up roughly 5 pounds from those shots (went on vacation in England and Ireland, you can imagine how much I drank), but am really, REALLY happy with my progress so far. I think I'm aiming for 140 pounds at the moment, but I'm sure pleased with how I look now. The sad thing? This is how I thought I always looked, even when I was 46 pounds heavier. Hard to believe how much our own eyes can lie to us.

Picture from a few days ago:

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