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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:30 am

I don't know if it's a tear yet! Shoulder mobility has gotten significantly better in the last few days (oddly) and my doctor will have the actual results from the ultrasound this coming week. (The technician wasn't really giving me much to go with.)

I'm still able to run and play soccer though as none of those involve lifting my arms, so that's been decent. I'm just rather pissed about losing any strength gains I've accumulated in the past few months.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Amirya » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:15 am

So back in the summer, I did 4 weeks of no bread/rice/pasta, and no processed sugar/HFCS, stuck to fruits and vegetables and protein, lots of water and iced tea.

My A1C dropped to under 7 (I think it was 6.6), which made my endocrinologist almost jump up out of his chair and dance. After the 4 weeks, I quit doing it, because it was the lack of rice more than anything that I was having trouble with.

I now find I need to go back to it, on a longer basis, because I've completely fallen off the wagon. I recognize that, and am starting today to correct that. However, rather than NO, I'm keeping it to "in small doses" - I believe the NO was what contributed to me backpedalling so much.

The issue I run into is threefold:
1. food is seriously boring the hell out of me, I eat because either my body tells me to or I feel socially pressured to do so - such as Thanksgiving, I didn't start eating right away, was just passing food onward without taking any, and my mother commented, "she does that and I don't know why." So I ate (unfortunately, carb heavy as turkey is disgusting)
2. All the hype says that this will make you feel "better" and "have more energy" - but my experience is just the opposite. It made me angrier, more resentful, more violent feeling, and that was when I could be arsed to stay awake - I preferred to sleep or do something low energy. Of course, I could just be a complete mutant, since my stepfather has deigned to inform me that I'm not doing something right (he's a condescending ass 82.472% of the time, so I just ignore him)
3. I still can't find a proper motivation (vanity is not one of my sins). I'm also apparently ghoulish for maintaining the outlook that we all die sometime, can't stave that off, so what the hell is the point in "being healthier to live longer" and if it's going to be an ultimate failure anyway (and it keeps me around people longer, the majority of whom I despise being around)?

Blah. The anger and resentment mentioned in #2 is already forming. No good can come of this. I guess I just should vent more. :)
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Zalaria » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:23 pm

That sounds a lot like the paleo diet. There are some people around here who are rabidly against it, but it really helps a lot of people.

If the food is boring, have a look at google's results for paleo. There are a lot of people who post recipes to their blogs, and some of them are really good. There are replacements for almost anything you would have normally made. Hope you like cooking though, or at least don't hate it.

Something that can be hard while on paleo is keeping carbs high enough. When you're not getting all the carbs from bread/pasta/etc you have to actually keep an eye on them. That may have been the cause of #2 and the rice cravings.

Also, for #1 - it happens. Don't worry about it. People who don't eat like this don't understand it and often try to put down those who do. It sucks, but if it's your path to being healthy it's worth it. If you do give in and have a cheat day, that's ok. Just pick it back up the next day. Cheat days can make it easier to keep on the wagon the rest of the time.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Rhiannon » Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:15 pm

Amirya wrote:So back in the summer, I did 4 weeks of no bread/rice/pasta, and no processed sugar/HFCS, stuck to fruits and vegetables and protein, lots of water and iced tea.

My A1C dropped to under 7 (I think it was 6.6), which made my endocrinologist almost jump up out of his chair and dance. After the 4 weeks, I quit doing it, because it was the lack of rice more than anything that I was having trouble with.

I now find I need to go back to it, on a longer basis, because I've completely fallen off the wagon. I recognize that, and am starting today to correct that. However, rather than NO, I'm keeping it to "in small doses" - I believe the NO was what contributed to me backpedalling so much.

The issue I run into is threefold:
1. food is seriously boring the hell out of me, I eat because either my body tells me to or I feel socially pressured to do so - such as Thanksgiving, I didn't start eating right away, was just passing food onward without taking any, and my mother commented, "she does that and I don't know why." So I ate (unfortunately, carb heavy as turkey is disgusting)
2. All the hype says that this will make you feel "better" and "have more energy" - but my experience is just the opposite. It made me angrier, more resentful, more violent feeling, and that was when I could be arsed to stay awake - I preferred to sleep or do something low energy. Of course, I could just be a complete mutant, since my stepfather has deigned to inform me that I'm not doing something right (he's a condescending ass 82.472% of the time, so I just ignore him)
3. I still can't find a proper motivation (vanity is not one of my sins). I'm also apparently ghoulish for maintaining the outlook that we all die sometime, can't stave that off, so what the hell is the point in "being healthier to live longer" and if it's going to be an ultimate failure anyway (and it keeps me around people longer, the majority of whom I despise being around)?

Blah. The anger and resentment mentioned in #2 is already forming. No good can come of this. I guess I just should vent more. :)


I imagine you're on some diabetes meds? And it's type 2? Depending on which ones and how they function, #2 might be a result of hypoglycemia like Zalaria alluded to.

E.g. my mum's on Gliclazide (which admittedly isn't marketed in the US, but perhaps you get others that function similarly) which stimulates her pancreas to produce more insulin. Even if she eats very little carbs, insulin production remains stimulated with the result that her blood glucose nosedives, leaving her lethargic/light-headed and irritable. In her case a reasonable supply of slow-digesting carbs kept her blood glucose a lot more stable. She still doesn't have much in the way of carb dense food apart from a daily slice of wholewheat toast, but gets enough from the dairy/veg she does eat to stave off low blood sugar (lots of greens as well as a reasonable amount of legumes, some greek yoghurt and the occasional piece of fruit).

Shot in the dark based on one symptom and not all diabetes meds function in this way, but it might be a factor.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Amirya » Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:06 pm

Yes, it's type 2, and I'm currently on metformin, novolog insulin for meals, and lantus insulin for the slow release. During that month, I was checking my glucose levels constantly, and only once did the number ever reach in double digits; that was a 98 after I came home and slept an hour instead of eating dinner. Most of the time, it hovered around 120-130, depending on how soon after a meal I checked (which was dependent on how irritable I was).

I'm not opposed to fruits and vegetables, I generally like most fruits, and the only vegetables offhand I don't like are the sweet potato and the yam (I've heard them used separately and interchangeably, so whatever it's called, I dislike). I'm not a huge fan of birds, but I am only opposed to turkey.

That said, I'm not even sure what was causing the irritability; my roommate did it same time as me so when we had breakfast/lunch/dinner, I wasn't staring at the slice of pizza on his plate or anything. I also don't like to cook, or even do any food preparation - to me, it makes food unappetizing. To be sure, I'm having to do a bit more, as my mother's limited in what she will eat right now (lot of fresh cucumber and sumiso dressing for her). However, there were some suggestions for slow cooker meals, so that's on my to-do list.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:10 am

Being in an office environment during the month of December is a freaking caloric death trap. :evil:
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Sabindeus » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:35 pm

Nikachelle wrote:Being in an office environment during the month of December is a freaking caloric death trap. :evil:

you said it sister
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Aubade » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:02 pm

I embrace the deathtrap. Someone just brought me gingerbread cookies at my desk. YES PLZ.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Amirya » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:39 pm

I am rejecting it. We have a holiday party coming up on Friday, complete with lunch.

I first refused to vote on the locale (passed my vote onward to someone else), and then I will refuse to order any food from said locale.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby fuzzygeek » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:46 pm

Has anyone ever tried Keto? My family started back in August. My son (5'6") went from 189 to 158 (target:150). My wife (5'2") went from 135 to 118 (target 115). I (5'8") went from 150 to 135. I technically stopped "dieting" at 140 but dropped more weight just because our eating habits changed.

It's an interesting diet.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:15 am

Sabindeus wrote:
Nikachelle wrote:Being in an office environment during the month of December is a freaking caloric death trap. :evil:

you said it sister

The VP decided to have a two hour "Bake Off" on the floor today. You have to go around to every table (over 16 teams) and sample their baked goods and vote for the best one.

I couldn't even make this shit up if I tried.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Amirya » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:06 am

You could always refuse to participate due to health concerns.

On my end, the team voted for an Italian place, and I was persuaded to just go with a salad. I have no idea how bad the dressing will be.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Zalaria » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:18 am

You can always just ask for oil & vinegar.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Amirya » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:38 am

Eh, my boss is placing our orders and then picking up and paying for them. I'd rather make it as simple as possible for him. Easy enough to simply not eat the whole thing.

I ordered The Big Beefstro.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby fuzzygeek » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:54 am

Nikachelle wrote:The VP decided to have a two hour "Bake Off" on the floor today. You have to go around to every table (over 16 teams) and sample their baked goods and vote for the best one.

I couldn't even make this shit up if I tried.


You can be the aesthetics judge!
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:27 pm

fuzzygeek wrote:
Nikachelle wrote:The VP decided to have a two hour "Bake Off" on the floor today. You have to go around to every table (over 16 teams) and sample their baked goods and vote for the best one.

I couldn't even make this shit up if I tried.


You can be the aesthetics judge!

Oh my god I ate so much.... The entire floor is in the middle of a sugar crash right now.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nooska » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:43 am

I've decided not to track (too closely) what I eat in december, and just continue the weight loss in january.
After all, as they say, its not what I eat from dec 1st to dec 31st that makes me heavy, its what I eat from dec 31st to dec 1st. I'll just keep to what I've learned offhand in regards to how much I can eat - will also be helpful to see how much I need the app tracking to continue doing things "correctly". Will be interesting.
(also I don't approve of torture, and it would be selftorture to try to avoid all the stuff that traditionally goes with december)
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Sat Dec 07, 2013 2:25 pm

Ultrasound and xray results back. I have a cyst in my rotator cuff region (which should get reabsorbed through physio) and fluid around my bicep tendon causing inflammation. Basically tendinitis in my upper bicep but no tear. Not allowed to lift for 4-6 weeks.

Frustrating.

I'm cleared to do leg exercises provided I use the machines instead of racking up barbells. Blahhhhh.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:43 am

I picked up the new Garmin 220 to "help out" with my running. One of the biggest reasons I picked it up is that I was convinced my Nike+ footpod tracker was inaccurate. Well that was an expensive lesson... turns out my footpod is near on par with the GPS tracker (this is based on onle one run though, so we'll see how the two fare over time).

I do like how it actually tracks my location and my heart rate - will be interesting to see that tracked over time.

The one big downer for it is the social media sharing. Since I've been using Twitter in conjunction with logging kilometers, I really can't post Garmin to Twitter without giving the entire world my home address (unless I change the privacy settings drastically). So for now I'll end up using Nike+ for social media since it's not connected to anything location-wise, and Garmin for my own progression. Feels a bit overkill though.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Amirya » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:33 am

So I decided to do a less restrictive diet than I did in the summer - instead of no breads/pastas/rices/etc, which had me completely nuts by the end of the month, I modified it to, "if you really must, then have a small bit. If you can go without, so much the better."

My mother put a scale in my bathroom this weekend, mostly because she needed to put it somewhere that wasn't the laundry room due to the new washer being delivered. I got a kick out of it saying my weight was 40 lbs lighter than when I'd last checked, which I knew was untrue. So I rechecked on my mother's digital scale - I'd actually lost 10 lbs. This, I can believe, because all of my jeans have been sliding down to my hips, even with a belt. But I hadn't taken the belt in any, since I was at that annoying size of "too small for current, but still too big for next holes."

As an experiment, after breakfast today, I tried taking the belt in to the next notch. It fits!
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Kal » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:27 am

You say no breads/pastas/rices/etc. Are you worried about to many carbohydrates?
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Amirya » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:38 am

I'm diabetic, so yes, but only slightly (I've since developed a boatload of apathy towards the whole healthy thing, since I don't see any long term benefits for me). I find bread, pasta, and rice to be more filling than straight up fruits, vegetables, and meats. I don't mind whole wheat or whole grain bread and pasta, but I find brown rice to be as appealing as a lump of uncooked liver, so I won't eat that. Same with quinoa. But if I'm not conscious about it, I'll go through that stuff like mad. So I try to limit it to once or twice a week, if I'm particularly craving it.

I find that, so far, if I really want something, I can usually satisfy the want with just a bit. Last night, I was really wanting a root beer float. So I got one. And after a couple of sips of the root beer (didn't touch the ice cream), I pushed the rest to my roommate with a smile.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Shoju » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:09 pm

SAturday will be 1 year using MyFitnessPal, which means it's been a little more than a year since I decided to start getting healthy. As told in pictures:

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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:09 pm

I'm amused that the exact same drawing has been sitting on that whiteboard for roughly seven months.

(Also... congrats! \o/ )
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Shoju » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:12 pm

Thanks :)

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