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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Passionario » Tue May 04, 2010 1:30 am

Mex wrote:You have to set aside some time to actually enjoy the game :)

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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Candiru » Tue May 04, 2010 5:19 am

Hmm I found a new area in Eclis after gathering. Its a rather hard event though, three level 9 mobs, but one of them does nothing but massive ward/armour and spirit attacks! I'm level 10 and have no chance. I guess you have to be quite a lot higher?
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby firstamendme » Tue May 04, 2010 7:38 am

My level 8 (Sajak) is going for pyro and having a great time. That is until Passionario's flea beat my orange tabby cat in a race.

"Orange Tabby was hit by a vicious blue shell."

You sonnofa bitch.

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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Passionario » Tue May 04, 2010 8:24 am

To be fair, I had another alt and two apprentices participating in that particular race, so the deck was stacked against you in any case. :D
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Mex » Tue May 04, 2010 9:03 pm

Candiru wrote:Hmm I found a new area in Eclis after gathering. Its a rather hard event though, three level 9 mobs, but one of them does nothing but massive ward/armour and spirit attacks! I'm level 10 and have no chance. I guess you have to be quite a lot higher?


For the most part, you can judge an event's difficulty based on the number of stars it has.

1 star = 0->10
2 stars = 10->20
3 stars = 20->30
etc

Typically events offer a single battle which presents a unique challenge, or a particularly nasty combination of abilities. This means that they can often be defeated very early by those with a sufficiently specialised deck, while those that lack the appropriate specialisation will have to wait until the higher end of the event's level bracket. For instance, I just beat a 3 star site at level 20 because I'm a recruit, which gives me a lot of great armour, and this event is best beaten by turtling.

It can take a lot of AP to discover events, but it's worth starting early imo. Spend time gathering in new cities until you've uncovered half a dozen sites or so. Hopefully, 1 or 2 will be events around your level. When you discover a site (not necessarily an event), you get explorer points. When you clear an event, you get treasure hunter points (although the number of stars must be equal to your current TH rank, eg you can't get R2 TH from 1 star sites). You'll also be getting extreme gatherer points. Gathering is very slow, but it's one of the best ways to raise your HP.

Once you've discovered some sites that you think you can handle, you should start farming them. They reset every 20 hours, based on when you last did them. If you discover a few sites in neighbouring cities, you can flick back and forth every day, doing both.

That said, Cave of the Something Something sites are special events :) They're part of a treasure hunt. Pay close attention to the items you get when you finally beat them, and if you put all the clues together and solve the riddle, you get +2 to all stats AND +25 HP! That said, most of the Caves require you to be at least 17 to get past, unless you're ridiculously lucky. The one in Eclis is very difficult - my twinked level 15 wiped 10+ times before giving up.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Mex » Wed May 05, 2010 4:27 am

Sorry for the double post, but I felt this deserved its own post, rather than tacking it onto the end of my previous one as an edit.

Lemex is my alt, and has just hit 16. I'm going to try and rush him to level 20 so that we can get a guild started, but I'm still a full 100 attribute points away. I'm getting 5-6 a day from jobs, and hopefully 2-4 every day or two from skillups, but it's still looking like it's going to take at least 2 weeks. Once it's up, there are still limited slots, and we need to put a fair amount of time and resources into building upgrades to the guild hall in order to fit more members in (and to get enough gold and mats to upgrade the hall, we need to upgrade the vault and warehouse, etc etc it gets pretty crazy). We'll have to limit it to one character per person, at least at first, but later on we should be able to make room for alts. If you're keen to help out with the guild, just keep levelling, try to save up a little bit of gold (not vital though), and most importantly just stay active. When it gets up and running, I'll basically do invites based on level, but at least at first, we need people who are logging in at least once a day (you can "build" for the guild once a day -- it resets at the same time as jobs / travel).

In any event, just wanted to give a heads up as to where it's at right now. As I get closer to 20, I'll start to figure out a preliminary list of inaugural guild members :) Until then, keep levelling hard!
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Mutley » Wed May 05, 2010 5:32 am

How long does it take for diminishing returns in PvP to reset? Been leveling cruelty and was wondering if I'm in any danger of running out of low lvl characters to fight :)
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Shamora » Wed May 05, 2010 8:14 am

I got this from the Wiki

k, i'm gonna explain this again, i can't find my old post.

day 1 you firstly play on estiah
day 1, 11:00 you log in, the server remembers your last login as "day 1, 11:00"
day 1, 12:30 you gank nipal, diminishing return is enabled for nipal
day 1, 15:00 you log in, dr is still up
day 2, 10:00 you log in, gank lezard, diminishing return is enabled for lezard
day 2, 13:00 you login, it's more than 24h than your last login, so pvp reset, all diminishing returns are cleared, last login is remembered as "day 2, 13:00"
day 2, 13:30 you can gank both nipal and lezard, even you just ganked lezard three hours ago
...

so it's actually based on "last login" which is not your "actual last login" really. i know it's quite awkward, you just
have to know that we did this for performance's sake and there are many other things happening at login too.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby RedAces » Wed May 05, 2010 8:50 am

hey,

started playing because of Mex' post and god... this is awesome!! Thanks for all the tips etc in this thread! <3
My char is level 7 now (named Redaces) and if the guild is up, I would really like to join !

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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Thornir » Wed May 05, 2010 12:01 pm

LFG group to do Rogue Colossus that isn't total fail. :(

Although, I might just stack defence and protect charms, he only has like 14 spirit.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Passionario » Wed May 05, 2010 12:13 pm

Thornir wrote:Although, I might just stack defence and protect charms, he only has like 14 spirit.


It's a deceiving number: his charms (other than Aim) have a self-stun component that makes him skip turns.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Argali » Wed May 05, 2010 2:51 pm

Thornir wrote:LFG group to do Rogue Colossus that isn't total fail. :(

Although, I might just stack defence and protect charms, he only has like 14 spirit.


Let's do it together! Might need another level though.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Argali » Wed May 05, 2010 5:32 pm

FFS, I was using my recklessness deck, and therefore failed to take down Thornir and Passio.

GRRR GRRR.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Shamora » Wed May 05, 2010 6:26 pm

Is there a searchable charm database or something like that? Like for instance something I could search for charms with focus. The Wiki has lists of charms based on Rune, but I have to click on each charm to find out it's effects.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Mex » Wed May 05, 2010 6:59 pm

There are a couple of guys trying to work on a larger, more comprehensive database of charms, but for now I think it's just the wiki.

The primary focus charms at low levels are Tied X, Guiding X, and Aiming X. There's also a holy focus charm from Thunderock Canyon iirc.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Passionario » Wed May 05, 2010 11:16 pm

Argali wrote:FFS, I was using my recklessness deck, and therefore failed to take down Thornir and Passio.


I'm a heavily armored/warded turtle. I kill people by smothering them.

If you can't kill me with a reckless assault, adding defense charms isn't going to help.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Argali » Thu May 06, 2010 4:43 am

Imah lazee, so I use the skip function, cause either way, I don't have that much charm variety to tweak mah decks, do I don't actually know what deck you used xD
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Shamora » Thu May 06, 2010 6:08 pm

Unless I'm mistaken you don't gain skill points on opponents that are 4 or more levels lower then you. So I just hit level 5 and I shouldn't gain any skills on the first fight in the sewer, but what about the second and third fight where some foes are level 1 and the others are within range?
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Mex » Thu May 06, 2010 6:37 pm

Skillup formulas are still a bit unclear, but the short answer is that yes, you will still gain skills, simply not as many as you would if all the opponents were within 3 levels of you.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Shamora » Thu May 06, 2010 7:47 pm

Thanks, that's what I was thinking. Was trying to decide if I should still run the sewer or not. Probably not going to if I don't get the full effect for my AP.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Mex » Fri May 07, 2010 1:22 am

Sewer's worth running until you've maxed Sewer Cleaner (you can check your progress by going to the skills page, and clicking the Renown tab), because that gives you 500g. Maxing it requires 5 full clears, and yeah at the rate you level, the charms aren't really worth doing it for past that.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Passionario » Fri May 07, 2010 2:05 am

Mex wrote:Sewer's worth running until you've maxed Sewer Cleaner (you can check your progress by going to the skills page, and clicking the Renown tab), because that gives you 500g. Maxing it requires 5 full clears, and yeah at the rate you level, the charms aren't really worth doing it for past that.

Unless you want the useless "Collect 60 Fleas" achievement. :)

Edit: Naughty Thornir, trying to gank people 2 levels below you. :P
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Candiru » Fri May 07, 2010 4:52 am

Wow! that's a lot of armour charms Passionario. Shame I have more spirit than you and so win by default (and collect 200g bounty!)

If you are trying to kill someone packing serious armour/ward, I guess the best way is to go all out magic or melee and use all either armour/ward destruction or penetration spells?

If I used all holy charms I could punch through the wards quite a lot, but I don't think I'd do enough damage to kill with your high HP.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Passionario » Fri May 07, 2010 5:01 am

Candiru wrote:Wow! that's a lot of armour charms Passionario. Shame I have more spirit than you and so win by default (and collect 200g bounty!)


Yeah, I kinda shot myself in the foot in this regard by not levelling Heroism in IBT. :(

Grats on the bounty.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Candiru » Fri May 07, 2010 5:08 am

I leveled heroism in the Eclis thunder-rock cavern, very easy to do at level 10!

Its just 3 gimmik fights, one is all armour, so just use all magic. Next is all ward, so use all melee.

Last one is massive cumalitive ward/armour but only 40HP and only 1/3 damage charms. (But loads of destroy armour/ward and shifting damage) so just stack full Holy/Daggers/Frost and nuke through.
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