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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Candiru » Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:39 am

I'm going Int/Con at the moment for Holy/Maces

Not sure if I will go Heirophant or Paladin though.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Mex » Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:43 am

Mecxs: Adventurer -> Novice -> Sage -> Hierarch
Mecxs: Adventurer -> Recruit -> Cleric -> Hierarch
Mecxs: Adventurer -> Recruit -> Guard -> Paladin
Mecxs: Adventurer -> Recruit -> Guard -> Warlord
Future-Mecxs: Adventurer -> Scout -> Rogue -> Warlord
Future-Mecxs-2-days-later: Adventurer -> Recruit -> Guard -> Warlord
Future-Mecxs-3-days-after-that: /creates 11 alts

I honestly can't make up my mind. At the moment I've invested a lot of points into Con, and quite a few into both Int and Dex. That pretty much limits me to either Warlord, Paladin, maybe Summoner, maybe Warden, and Assassin / Slayer if I wanted to go really crazy. I'm pretty much stuck with having power as my dump stat though.

I'm quite liking the look of Warlord -- you've got strong potential in 1v1 via stacking CPB (continuous power boosts, +X melee (ongoing) effects) to ridiculous levels, as well as some viable turtle options, you have group PvP viability as either a tank or melee buffbot, and you have PvE viability as a tank. Int as a tertiary gives me access to maces, which go well with stacking melee damage buffs, as well as some twin blades and lightning / holy magic. Power would have given me stronger magic options via earth, as well as some nice swords, and maybe shadow magic / axes.

On the other hand, Paladin with Dex as tertiary would make me a tanky buffbot, buffing the group's defenses while going crazy with maces. Seal of the Pure (every time you play a mace card, you get a bunch of armour + ward) is very good, and would ideally form the core of an offensive PvP deck. Plus, Paladins are ... well, they're freaking Paladins man. I rolled my first Paladin 16 years ago, playing D&D for the first time, and have made one in almost every single RPG I've ever played :( I think I'm just going to go Recruit -> Guard, keep int and dex very close, and flip a coin at 40 :)
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Talderas » Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:50 am

Well, Lightning looks like a sexy attack power. Low to moderate damage kind of sucks, but with good penetration and shifting on a lot of the charms, it seems like a strong bet. Dealing physical or magical based on the lower defensive value of the target and then penetrating that armor?

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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby guillex » Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:06 am

Talderas wrote:So you can have multiple characters?

And you can put them into a party?

=(

I only have one that's lv4 that I'm building towards Int/Dex (Lightning sounds fun).


From what I know, no, you can't have them interacting.

I have 3 different characters, but they're all played independently. You MIGHT be able to later on, but I think for lower levels you can't. You can't mentor yourself, either.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Thornir » Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:26 am

I'm at a complete loss at what I'm gonna do; I've been stacking a lot of Int lately, and Dex and Con are about equal with Dex coming up the rear; Both Assassin and Paladin sound like what I wanna do. I guess I'm just gonna wait until lvl 20.

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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Argali » Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:13 pm

There's a bounty on mecxs!

Time to collect!
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Mex » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:20 pm

Argali wrote:There's a bounty on mecxs!

Time to collect!


Haha I've had a bad run with defending against bounty-hunters in the last 24 hours actually, 2 losses and 1 win :( I'm still 109-21 up for the week though! I just maxed my own bounty-hunting skill too.

By the way, Outlaw is a VERY powerful skill -- it gives more HP than any other skill in the game (except treasure hunter!), and is a must have for any PvPer, or aspiring tank. You get it by successfully defending yourself in PvP against opponents that are within 1 level of you, while you have a bounty on you. If the attacker is 2 levels or more lower than you, or even higher than you, you don't get points.

This makes getting points in Outlaw quite hard. The best thing to do is simply have a bounty on you at all times. Even so, it will take a very long time to skill it up. There are a couple of ways to get a bounty.

1) When your PvP rating gets high enough, the game may automatically bounty you.
2) Have somebody put a bounty on you without you asking. This is very, very rare because having a bounty is actually a good thing, which is sort of contrary to the idea of bounties.
3) Organise a bounty-swap, with guildies or people on this forum. This is generally the most common way of getting bounties. You put one on your friend, your friend puts one on you. The cost of putting a bounty on somebody is Level*40 gold. The bounty takes up to 24 hours to take effect, and remains in place until the bounty has been collected five times (each successful attack will claim 20% of the bounty). Depending on how good your gear is, and how lucky you are with opponents, bounties can last from a day or two right up to over a month.

I'd recommend trying to get a bounty once you've build a defensive deck that you're happy with, the sooner you start the better :)
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Passionario » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:08 am

Just when I had a nice kill streak going, some bastard 8 levels above me had to go and ruin it. :(
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Talderas » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:27 am

I would like to express my minor irritation at the distinct lack of skills/jobs (at lower levels) that raise my attributes that lack Con on them. I want to get my dex above con, right now I believe my stat order is Int > Con > Dex > Pow, and I want it to be Int > Dex > Con > Pow. My dex is just two points below con, but right now I'm using a job that gives +1 dex, +3 int, +1 con so that I don't throw it out of whack necessarily.

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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Passionario » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:45 am

You could move to a different city. It appears that not all jobs are available in all cities.

For example, Aleas has a 'Nurse' job that gives +2 Dex, +2 Int, +1 Con (plus some points in First Aid skill).
So, if you already have 4 Dex, 5 Int and 3 Con, you could move over and give it a try. :)
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Mex » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:58 am

Actually Talderas, I just ran into the same issue. I recently started an alt, planning to eventually make it into a pyromaniac (ie Pow + Int, with Dex third for strong shadow). The problem with jobs in Inachis is that the first 6 all give 1-2 Con. I think the earliest job you can get that doesn't require Con in Inachis is Scribe, which requires 6 Dex and 6 Int. It's annoying, but at the end of the day, half a dozen points worth of Con from jobs won't kill me in the long run.

Passionario's right in that different cities have different jobs, which can be annoying when you're trying to do a specific job. For instance, the Discipline skill (which can only be gained from doing jobs) gives a small, but nevertheless nice, amount of health. However, there's only one job that gives you Discipline without giving Con, and it's only available in two cities, which makes levelling it really frustrating (especially if you're doing dungeons on the other side of the map!).

One job to watch out for though, at level 10 you get access to messenger jobs, which give you points in horse riding, plus a free 1-step move for the day, and 200-300g. This lets you use your daily job to move (and you can still move after that, for a total of 2-steps), but doesn't give any attributes (which can be useful if you're trying not to level). Once you max R1 horse riding, you get access to the conveyer jobs, which allow you to use your job to move 2 steps. This means that you can move a total of 3 steps in a single day, and is incredibly useful later on, when you need to zip back and forth between different sides of the map.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Talderas » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:06 am

Passionario wrote:You could move to a different city. It appears that not all jobs are available in all cities.

For example, Aleas has a 'Nurse' job that gives +2 Dex, +2 Int, +1 Con (plus some points in First Aid skill).
So, if you already have 4 Dex, 5 Int and 3 Con, you could move over and give it a try. :)


Is there a minimum level that you can travel to a city at?

I'm basically trying to get lv5 then buy as many lightning kata's as I can afford.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Mex » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:08 am

Some of the harder cities have a minimum level, but this is generally quite generous -- it's very rare that you'll be able to beat a city's lowest level dungeon, but be too low to travel there. Cities with starting dungeons, like Aleas and Eversweep, have no level requirements at all -- you can travel to them as early as level 1. Click the World Map button (globe icon) in the top right to travel.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Talderas » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:28 am

Mex wrote:Some of the harder cities have a minimum level, but this is generally quite generous -- it's very rare that you'll be able to beat a city's lowest level dungeon, but be too low to travel there. Cities with starting dungeons, like Aleas and Eversweep, have no level requirements at all -- you can travel to them as early as level 1. Click the World Map button (globe icon) in the top right to travel.


Well, looks like I'll be traveling toe Aleas to become a Nurse. :mrgreen:
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Passionario » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:58 am

Talderas wrote:Well, looks like I'll be traveling toe Aleas to become a Nurse. :mrgreen:


Mwahahahahaha, more helpless ganking fodder! :twisted:

Erm, I mean, enjoy the trip. :)
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Talderas » Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:02 am

Passionario wrote:
Talderas wrote:Well, looks like I'll be traveling toe Aleas to become a Nurse. :mrgreen:


Mwahahahahaha, more helpless ganking fodder! :twisted:

Erm, I mean, enjoy the trip. :)


Or I could travel to Lumina to become a Nurse where PvP is disabled.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Shathus » Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:12 am

Interesting game, just started playing yesterday. I'm more blundering through AP at this time then having a set goal for the character. To ask a dumb question, is the only way (at least at the low lvl 3 i'm currently at) to get a level up to work your job?
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Mex » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:03 am

Your level is based purely on your stats, there's no xp. So anything that gives you stats helps you level. This includes jobs, but also skills. When you use charms in combat you get points in that skill, and when you get to 100 points, you get stats. Later on, you can get stats from special food and potions too.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Candiru » Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:42 pm

If I've gone Con/Int as my main stats, and left Dex and Pow alone until now which one is better to raise a bit?

Dex would give me lightning and spears, to go with Maces and Holy. Seems a Spear/Holy deck would do quite well, with lots of cumulative defences and penetrating attacks?
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Argali » Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:52 pm

Candiru wrote:If I've gone Con/Int as my main stats, and left Dex and Pow alone until now which one is better to raise a bit?

Dex would give me lightning and spears, to go with Maces and Holy. Seems a Spear/Holy deck would do quite well, with lots of cumulative defences and penetrating attacks?


Go check out what class you want to be in the long term. You get to pick 2 stats as your primary, and while you can pick a 3rd stat to boost a bit to diversify your charm choices, you won't be able to use the latest, and bestest charms for you 2 chosen stats. I think being a bit diverse is better for solo play. There's lots of group stuff though, apparently.

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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Argali » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:33 pm

I plagiarised mex's first post for my guild forums lol.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Mex » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:02 pm

With a Con/Int setup, then you'll be doing most of your damage with maces. You can either focus heavily on melee by boosting Dex, which gives you access to spears, or you can gain access to more powerful magic damage by boosting power, for Earth charms. Both have their merits. I keep Dex equal with Int, and Pow very low, but you can just as easily keep Pow and Dex quite equal. There's no "best" answer in most cases like this. If you go one way, you'll be rock, if you go the other, you'll be scissors, but in the end no matter what kind of deck you run, there will always be a hard counter. The thing to make sure of is that you're capable of running at least 1-2 high quality decks, which is why you need a Primary and Secondary stat. After that, it matters much less.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Levantine » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:34 pm

Interesting. I think I wanna go Scout -> Rogue -> Assassin, but I'm not sure. I like the idea of Twinblades and Lightning, with maybe a little Frost if I'm feeling frisky.
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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby Passionario » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:13 pm

Argali wrote:I plagiarised mex's first post for my guild forums lol.

I translated it and posted it on mine.

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Re: Estiah -- Browser-based MMORPG game

Postby firstamendme » Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:43 am

Good times!

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'Captain Gaufre wore this even though both his eyes could see.'
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