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Single Tank Void Reaver?

Postby Pllatinum » Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:59 am

My guild uses three tanks for Void Reaver, with me one of them as the 3rd tank (guild leader still paranoid I'm squishy). Whenever he's on me, I keep agro up even after I'm knocked away after three times (agro reduction).

My question is if any of you have solo tanked him with immense amounts of threat and kept him on you the whole battle. If so, it could be quite a little niche to have in our pockets.
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Postby Phaex » Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:40 am

It is impossible.
I'll explain why.

First important thing to know is, that voidreavers knockback, like any knockback in the game i know of reduces threat by a percentage. VR's knockback seems to be a 25% reduce.

He does that every 30 seconds. Lets see what happens to your threat now, in a worst case scenario with no resists;
You do 900 TPS in this example:

0-30s - 900*30=27000 (900 effective tps)
30-60s - 20250+900*30 (787 effective tps)
60s-90s - 35437+900*30 (693 effective tps)
90s-120s - 46828+900*30 (615 effective tps)

55371+900*30
61778+900*30
66583+900*30
70187+900*30
.....

So, after 5 minutes or so, you basicly stop building more threat at all. So even with no DPS involved, you'll lose him to your healers for sure. Not to mention the enrage timer sitting in your back.

It might be possible to two man him with paladins tho. I'm not yet sure about it. With non paladin tanks you will always need 3, better 4 tanks if your dps is not incredible.
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Postby Pllatinum » Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:47 am

Thank you. Glad I asked here before making a fool of myself to the guild. :wink: :)
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Postby Phaex » Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:56 am

And so.. sexy Phaexi saved the world again.
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Postby Kvaern » Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:12 am

I don't see why it shouldn't be possible with high enough TPS and some luck on avoiding knockbacks, but ofc that's casino and not something you should base your stategy on.
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Postby PsiVen » Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:09 am

Not impossible at all, you just have to parry every knockback :)
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Postby Trevize » Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:51 pm

See keeping Deflection is worth it after all! hehe.

I usually hold him for 35-40% without any misdirects except the initial one.

I thought it might be possible as well if you stack the group and have 5 priests who chain cast power infusion on you lol. Chain misdirects. Ret pally, wrath of air totem so on so forth.

But nope.
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Postby Lore » Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:12 pm

With a 25% aggro reduction on knockbacks, so long as everyone in the raid stays under 75% of your threat, you will never lose aggro.

Total TPS from start to finish of the fight doesn't much matter - it's TPS inbetween knockbacks. You don't stop generating threat, and you don't generate LESS threat after every knockback; you'll have the same threat output from start to finish.

So it's certainly possible, but probably not advisable without hitting the enrage timer.
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Postby PsiVen » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:21 pm

I can see doing this when VR is on "pug status" like BWL in the Naxx-clear era.
Someday I'll bring 1 ret paladin (keeping JoCr up), 1 shaman (WoA), say 7 healers (so that any one of them won't have too much aggro), and 15 hunters.

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Postby Cragus » Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:19 am

Ya it would be a nice thing, but it won't happen without dps going down the drain lol, and the enrage timer is always watching over you hhehe :)
I last about 5or 6 knocksbacks, about the first 30% of the fight without loosing aggro to our feral druid, then just stay on course and its back to you again.
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Postby DracAlexstrasza » Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:58 pm

Last night I tanked him solo up until 20% or so... not sure what the exact percentage was but by the time I lost him I could use my hammer of wrath.

It was a kinda fast kill, more than three minutes left before enrage. Maybe that helped. ^_^
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Postby Nymeros » Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:10 pm

As people have said, no - you can't really do it.

But, a Paladin and a Feral Druid make an excellent tag team duo on this guy from all reports.

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Postby Phaex » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:19 am

Yeah its more like a fun thing to do with a completely overgeared raid which killed him a hundred times, but certainly nothing you want to do in a pug or something.

Grats for keeping him till 20%. Your raid dps must be unbelievable over the top.
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Postby Daeren » Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:31 am

I managed to take him to 35% last night before a prot warrior finally caught up.

Need more spell damage!

But gz to taking him to 20%
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Postby Diocaska » Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:26 am

Just wondered how frequently this has been tried?

Pull starts, Judge SoTC, Avengers Shield, Rank 1 Holy shield, stack vengence, Avenging Wrath, Concecreate, judge, repeat.

For some reason, it sounds completely viable to do this with a Druid offtank, everyone else keeping below the druid, with misdirects going at the Paladin at EVERY oppertunity. With about 3/4/5 hunters in the raid.

Surely it can be done?
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