I really need help with slabs

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I really need help with slabs

Postby Bubbleoseven » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:19 am

I have no idea what the hell i'm doing wrong but aside from my first absolutely awesome slabs run all my others have turned to dung.

DPS is always pulling aggro on the first 2 bosses and for some reason they are pulling aggro on mobs leading up to the second boss as well, i just can't hold it, i was losing it to a warlock and a rogue. armoury link below:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... n=Headnoob

any tips on how to get around my problem would be extremely helpful :x
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Postby Worldie » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:25 am

Its not your fault.

1st boss fears. Fears = ignoring feared target. If they keep getting out of fear he will attack them.

2nd shadow lab boss is the hardest one ever for a paladin. Soaks your mana with healing while mindcontrolled, and you wont be able to hold him for long (ranged taunt helps a lot tbh).

About mobs in that big room, remind that many of them are casters, and you dont make a very high aggro on them. Let them focusfire down Shadow priests and Warlocks first, it will make your life easier.

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Postby PsiVen » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:48 am

Blackheart the Inciter is the most bullshit encounter in the game for a paladin to tank, and the reason I have vowed never to return to that instance.
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Postby cdan » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:49 am

Can also be that sometimes dps are a lot more patient with agro build up by warriors than they are with paladins. Salv them and and doublecheck RF if you are unsure of your dps' ability to wait a couple of seconds.

Strats for the Inciter are all over this forum, but two things are most important - 1) tell the group to pause their dps after MC so you can regain agro and 2) remind them to run towards you, rather than walk backwards slowly, getting thumped hard like they always do if the boss has them targeted.
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Postby Bubbleoseven » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:46 am

PsiVen wrote:Blackheart the Inciter is the most bullshit encounter in the game for a paladin to tank, and the reason I have vowed never to return to that instance.

hahahahaha, i think i might make the same vow as soon as i get my damn trinket

thank you for the quick response guys
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Postby Ralthos » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:42 am

PsiVen wrote:Blackheart the Inciter is the most bullshit encounter in the game for a paladin to tank, and the reason I have vowed never to return to that instance.

I made that vow as soon as I got my Gavel. I'm with ya, man.
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Postby mconeone » Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:37 am

Use BoW and lots of int/spell damage gear.
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Postby Viskahn » Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:59 am

i need about 7 more runs to get revered. /pity me.

generally for blackheart, i make sure im using BoW, BoSac on the healer, and chug a mana pot after the first MC, and tell dps if they dont get him down before the next MC we are fucked.
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Postby lusisia » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:58 pm

Viskahn wrote:i need about 7 more runs to get revered. /pity me.

I got so close to revered (i.e. less than 1k that I BEGGED a droo tank to throw on some +heal and let me reset the instance a few times clearing out as many melee mobs as I could to top off.

It worked too ;)

Of course now I've got guildies wanting to start building rep so I'm tanking it again. And we aren't allowed to leave until 2 sonic spear drops and a warrior shoulder set drops.

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Postby fuzzygeek » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:16 pm

I just noticed I'm 20159/21000 LC rep. Heh.

I actually don't mind tanking SL much. Fear is stupid, but frankly it's good practice for Nightbane. And until they fix the BoP-the-healer while feared, it's not that big a deal.

Ranged taunt makes the 2nd boss considerably easier if the DPS can learn to behave. If they can't, then that fight is going to suck a bit. Pop up a jow and pray for the best.

I bet the lock is seeding three seconds into the pull and the rogue is popping Blade Flurry as soon as he's in melee range, or something stupid. Tell them to never hit anything unless it's been standing in consecrate for 3 seconds. Make sure you know how to use LoS to get mobs to stack up on top of each other inside your consecrate. Try to roll with around 200 spell damage.

There's a niche in the hallway to the 1st boss room that you can pull all 9 initial mobs in to and aoe them to death, but the entire group has to understand how that pull works. Otherwise stick with 3 pulls.
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Postby Kitsuna » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:05 pm

I'll probably catch some flak for suggesting this, but...

Personally I tank Blackheart wearing my Arena healing set, and sub in my weapon/trinkets/rings for my normal tanking weapon/spell damage trinkets / spell damage +stam rings. He hits like a pansy, and you will have a TON of mana to use throughout the fight.

Aside from that, a few suggestions for him include...

1. Judge wisdom
2. Always use consecrate whenever possible, downrank if needed. It saps your mana real quick if you let him use it
3. Use all abilities than cause forbearence before he uses them
4. Tell everyone to do NOTHING after the chaos. You heal party members, he comes to you. Start building threat as usual. Have them start dpsing once you thin you have it
5. Curse blizzard for not fixing righteous defense.

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Postby Comma » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:27 am

Engage - use joc, avengeing wrath, avenger shield, consecration, everything.

After 1st MC - jow, sor, use all mana left, but make sure you have enough mana to taunt.

After 2nd MC - drink a super mana pot, and use all the mana

After 3rd MC - do nothing but taunt / bop

If the boss isnt dead yet, you need better dps.

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Postby Xanatos » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:44 am

Holy thread necromancy, Batman!

I'm guessing the OP would've downed Blackheart by now.
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Postby Vanifae » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:47 am

Shadow Labs I ran it to death, it sucks but isn't that bad.
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Postby Suikano » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:54 am

I really don't understand the problem everyone has with this instance... I've 4 manned it with a feral druid, resto shaman, holy priest, all except for boss 3 where we had to sub a mage for the shaman, although I was running the wrong circuit to avoid the VW's so that set of screwups that time was probably my fault.

ps. my gear is really unimpressive so if I can do it... mobs leading up to blackheart i pull with AS, duck behind a corner and then consecrate the hell out of em.
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