Divine Plea is uanble to keep up without SA and Sanc

[caerdydd]

Just back from Ulduar 10.
We just had time after our Iron Council Hard, to do couples of trys on Vezax. After loots of annoying trash mobs, I was asked to tank the big guy...
I first said no and I wanted to offtank the adds but after 2s of dps on Vezax before the add pops, I was oom...
Next try, I tanked him with this http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin ... rsion=9806 and I was still oom because I hits like a girl... So I tried to stop using my consecration and change my threat rotation but still, I couldn't regenerate...

Tomorrow, I'll try with 2/2 SA with my Naxxramas stuff to take just few more damage
So far, that's the only boss were I had mana issues. So I still think, that 1/2 SA, BoS and JoW with DP is more than enough in 10 man ulduar to have enough mana (I don't use Sanctuary in 10 Man Ulduar)

[knaughty]

We're most of the way through Ulduar-25 and 10.

DP + BoS + 1/2 is enough (just barely).

I know in a hurry if I forget to put DP up. Mana management revolves around "Consecration substitution".

[Kynes]

We're most of the way through Ulduar-25 and 10.

DP + BoS + 1/2 is enough (just barely).

I know in a hurry if I forget to put DP up. Mana management revolves around "Consecration substitution".

This describes my ulduar experiences perfectly.

[Candiru]

If you replace consecration for Exorcism and Avenger's Shield that should help lower your mana expenditure?

Although now Guarded by the light has changed I'm not sure AS is cheaper than cons any more..

[Kynes]

If you replace consecration for Exorcism and Avenger's Shield that should help lower your mana expenditure?

Although now Guarded by the light has changed I'm not sure AS is cheaper than cons any more..

Considering I haven't had a threat issue yet, I just drop the con and hang out for a gcd. That might change eventually but I'll deal with that then.

[inthedrops]

We're most of the way through Ulduar-25 and 10.

DP + BoS + 1/2 is enough (just barely).

I know in a hurry if I forget to put DP up. Mana management revolves around "Consecration substitution".

This describes my ulduar experiences perfectly.

Ditto.

[Dracora]

We're most of the way through Ulduar-25 and 10.

DP + BoS + 1/2 is enough (just barely).

I know in a hurry if I forget to put DP up. Mana management revolves around "Consecration substitution".

This describes my ulduar experiences perfectly.

[Daenerys]

Had to switch to 2/2 SA for General Vezax. For everything else, I loved the 0/53/18 spec. With 2/2 in SA, I had no problems with mana on Vezax. My spec is a little messed b/c talents were glitching while I was speccing, but it worked well for Vezax and I'm sticking with it for now.

[Eanin]

For some reason, my mana regen doesn't seem as good as it did pre-3.1, though I guess I'm using Seal of Wisdom less.

One option is 2/3 Crusade and 2/2 SA. It's where I'm leaning if I were ever to go with the Crusade spec.

[Corman]

I'm in the same boat.... I don't think its 3.1 changes, I believe its the nerfing of the bosses. For example: XT-002 I swear hits lighter now. I have to always prep Divine Plea before a pull or with 1/2 SA, Sanc, Wis and no DP, I have negative mana flow. Taking lots of incoming damage, I'm fine. Against something that hits for crap... I oom and start doing stupid things with my rotation (despite current theory, I'm running Glyph of Exorcism and swapping in Exor for judge when up unless my shield is about to hit cd due to LoO and on some fights trying to swap AS for hammer though that is fight determinant because Exor and AS are both great for picking up random crap.... on Kologarn, Thorim arena, until the last phase of razorscale, Ignis, etc, its just too valuable to have AS and Exor ready to grab stray adds :/