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Stoicism??

Postby Balzmcgurkin » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:57 am

Is stoicism worth specing at all? The tooltip on the talent calculater says it reduces the chance your spells are dispelled by 10/20/30%, but on the patch notes it said reduces the chance your spells are resisted by 10/20/30%. If it reduces the chance your spells are resisted, would that not compensate for precision being removed? (at least the 3% spell hit part of it)
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Postby Snake-Aes » Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:00 am

months behind typo is months behind.

The only change in stoicism from bc to wrath is the global change from stun resist to stun durations
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Postby Balzmcgurkin » Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:02 am

Great! Wasn't sure if it was a typo or not. Thanks for the help.
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Postby kiki » Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:40 am

By the way, I was always wondering.

Does it reduces the chance
1) your buffs are removed (dispelled)
or
2) your debuffs are cleansed

I think it's 2) but not 100% sure.
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Postby Gamingdevil » Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:25 am

Both I think, but you're about 1 month too late to ask that in this topic.
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Postby Snake-Aes » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:25 am

Both AFAIK
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Postby Lore » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:26 am

Gamingdevil wrote:Both I think, but you're about 1 month too late to ask that in this topic.


I vastly prefer that posters bump old topics along the same lines instead of making new ones.

This is a great example of a new poster doing exactly what they're supposed to. You all should learn from Kiki's example!
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Postby Rokh » Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:24 am

so is this bad or good?

I have a pocket ret friend for kings, and so i have points to burn low in the tree.

stun=bad, lessstun=good?

what about
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sV0bZ0eVAbuMteIRGoxo

less debuffs ? /shrug
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Postby Noradin » Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:06 am

Rokh wrote:so is this bad or good?

I have a pocket ret friend for kings, and so i have points to burn low in the tree.

stun=bad, lessstun=good?

what about
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sV0bZ0eVAbuMteIRGoxo

less debuffs ? /shrug


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Postby uke » Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:25 pm

Stoicism is a mostly PVP talent for ret and holy pallys (mostly) to spec into, to protect against dispells on their way to speccing down to improved Hammer of Justice.

Very little use for PVE, if any at all.
Pally's been relegated to AH duties.

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Postby kylone » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:02 am

I'm just wondering, from the guys who've been raiding: are stuns, fears, and disorients (targeting the tank(s) part of raid battles so far?
This would likely be the only main reason to take Stoicism and Unyielding Faith.
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Postby marsbubble » Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:56 pm

Rokh wrote:so is this bad or good?

I have a pocket ret friend for kings, and so i have points to burn low in the tree.

stun=bad, lessstun=good?

what about
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sV0bZ0eVAbuMteIRGoxo

less debuffs ? /shrug



get your ret friend to spec into divine purpose and hof you when you're stunned. /problem
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Postby kylone » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:06 pm

marsbubble wrote:get your ret friend to spec into divine purpose and hof you when you're stunned. /problem

I'm more concerned with Fear myself, but also AoE stuns. And HoF's cooldown could be an issue.
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