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MT gear progression

Postby Lieris » Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:55 pm

Here is a general guide to MT gear progression in raids. Don't consider it definitive so by all means contest any of this. Bias is shown towards "paladin tank" gear wherever the item is viable so some "warrior" items will be omitted if they offer nothing different.

Equally ranked items are about equivalent or down to personal preference and your gear makeup. One item might be very slightly better than the other but it's the sort of very minor upgrade that you'd pass over for another tank.

Disclaimer: This list just a harmless bit of OCD fun that can be a useful reference and point of comparison. If you take all of this literally and as gospel without thinking what is best for you and what the encounter requires then:

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If you'd like a list that includes many items without spell damage then Questioner's Epic Tank Gear Progression List is very complete and well maintained.

Helm:
#1 Helm of Uther's Resolve - Kiljaeden, Sunwell Plateau (Sunmote turn-in)
#2 Hard Khorium Goggles - Sunwell Plateau recipe drop
#3 Faceplate of the Impenetrable - Illidan Stormrage, Black Temple
#3 Lightbringer Faceguard - Archimonde, Hyjal
#4 Battleworn Tuskguard - Hex Lord Malacrass, Zulaman
#4 Tankatronic Goggles - Crafted, Engineering
#5 Crystalforge Faceguard - Lady Vashj, Serpentshrine Cavern
#6 Justicar Faceguard - Prince Malchezaar, Karazhan
#6 Faceguard of the Endless Watch - Doomwalker (BOE)

Neck:
#1 Collar of the Pit Lord - Brutallus, Sunwell Plateau
#1 Pendant of Titans - Reliquary of Souls, Black Temple
#1 The Darkener's Grasp - Kael'thas Sunstrider, Tempest Keep
#2 Frayed Tether of the Drowned - Fathom-Lord Karathress, Serpentshrine Cavern
#2 Barbed Choker of Discipline - Maiden of Virtue, Karazhan

Shoulders:
#1 Spaulders of the Thalassian Defender - Eredar Twins, Sunwell Plateau (Sunmote turn-in)
#1 Lightbringer Shoulderguards - Mother Sharaz, Black Temple
#2 Pauldrons of Abyssal Fury - Supremus, Black Temple
#3 Crystalforge Shoulderguards - Void Reaver, Tempest Keep
#4 Justicar Shoulderguards - High King Maulgar, Gruul's Lair
#4 Pauldrons of Stone Resolve - 1st Timed Chest, Zul'aman
#5 Mantle of Abrahmis - Netherspite, Karazhan

Cloak:
#1 Crimson Paragon's Cover - Twin Eredars, Sunwell Plateau
#1 Pepe's Shroud of Pacification - Hyjal Trash
#1 Slikk's Cloak of Placation - 35 Badge of Justice
#1 Phoenix-Wing Cloak - Al'ar, Tempest Keep

Chest:
#1 Heroic Judicator's Chestguard - M'uru, Sunwell Plateau
#2 Lightbringer Chestguard - Illidan Stormrage, Black Temple
#3 Chestguard of the Stoic Guardian - 75 Badge of Justice
#4 Crystalforge Chestguard - Kael'thas Sunstrider, Tempest Keep
#5 Justicar Chestguard - Magtheridon, Magtheridon's Lair
#6 Panzar'Thar Breastplate - Nightbane, Karazhan

Wrist:
#1 Lightbringer Wristguards - Kalecgos, Sunwell Plateau
#2 Eternium Shell Bracers - High Warlord Naj'entus, Black Temple
#2 The Seeker's Wristguards - Shade of Akama, Black Temple
#3 Bracers of the Ancient Phalanx - 35 Badge of Justice
#4 Wristguards of Determination - Void Reaver, Tempest Keep
#5 Vambraces of Courage - Attumen the Huntsman, Karazhan

Gloves:
#1 Lightbringer Handguards - Azgalor, Hyjal
#1 Borderland Fortress Grips - Felmyst, Sunwell Plateau
#2 Gauntlets of Enforcement - Teron Gorefiend, Black Temple
#3 Royal Gauntlets of Silvermoon - Kaelthas Funstrider, Tempest Keep
#4 Crystalforge Handguards - Leotheras the Blind, Serpentshrine Cavern
#5 Iron Gauntlets of the Maiden - Maiden of Virtue, Karazhan
#5 Justicar Handguards - Curator, Karazhan

Waist:
#1 Lightbringer Waistguard - Brutallus, Sunwell Plateau
#2 Girdle of Mighty Resolve - Gurtogg Bloodboil, Black Temple
#2 Girdle of Stability - Gurtogg Bloodboil, Black Temple
#3 Belt of the Guardian - Crafted, Blacksmithing
#3 Girdle of the Protector - 60 Badge of Justice
#4 Crimson Girdle of the Indomitable - Moroes, Karazhan

Legs:
#1 Judicator's Legguards - Sunwell Plateau
#2 Inscribed Legplates of the Aldor - 100 Badges of Justice
#2 Lightbringer Legguards - Illidari Council, Black Temple
#3 Praetorian's Legguards - Shade of Akama, Black Temple
#4 Wrynn Dynasty Greaves - The Curator, Karazhan
#4 Crystalforge Legguards - Fathom-Lord Karathress, Serpentshrine Cavern
#4 Unwavering Legguards - 75 Badges of Justice

Feet:
#1 Tide-stomper's Greaves - High Warlord Naj'entus, Black Temple
#1 Lightbringer Stompers - Felmyst, Sunwell Plateau
#2 Sabatons of the Righteous Defender - 60 Badge of Justice
#3 Boots of the Protector - Crafted, Blacksmithing
#4 Jungle Stompers - Nalorakk, Zul'aman
#4 Battlescar Boots - Chess Event, Karazhan
#5 Boots of Elusion - Karazhan Trash

Ring:
#1 Ring of Hardened Resolve - Muru, Sunwell Plateau
#2 Ring of the Stalwart Protector - 60 Badges of Justice
#2 Band of the Eternal Defender - Exalted, The Scale of the Sands
#2 Ring of Sundered Souls - Morogrim Tidewalker, Serpentshrine Cavern
#3 Band of the Abyssal Lord - Supremus - Black Temple
#3 Signet of the Last Defender - Timed Chests, Zul'Aman
#3 Violet Signet of the Great Protector - Exalted, The Violet Eye
#4 Seventh Ring of the Tirisfalen - Tempest Keep Trash
#5 Shermanar Great Ring - Shade of Aran, Karazhan

Mainhand:
#1 Tempest of Chaos - Archimonde, Hyjal
#1 Reign of Misery - Brutallus, Sunwell Plateau
#2 Hammer of Judgement - Hyjal Trash
#3 Fang of the Leviathan - Leotheras the Blind - Serpentshrine Cavern
#3 Merciless Gladiator's Gavel - 25,200 Honor Points & 20 EotS marks
#3 Amani Punisher - Akil'zon, Zul'Aman
#3 Blade of Twisted Visions - Zul'jin, Zul'Aman
#4 Cudgel of Consecration - Kael'thas Lolstrider, Heroic Magisters' Terrace

Shield:
#1 Sword Breaker's Bulwark - Felmyst, Sunwell Plateau
#2 Bulwark of Azzinoth - Illidan Stormrage, Black Temple
#3 Antonidas's Aegis of Rapt Concentration - Archimonde, Hyjal
#4 Kaz'rogal's Hardened Heart - Kaz'rogal, Hyjal
#4 Illidari Runeshield - Trash drop, Black Temple
#5 Aldori Legacy Defender - Gruul the Dragonkiller, Gruul's Lair
#5 Bulwark of the Amani Empire - Jan'alai, Zul'aman
#5 Merciless Gladiator's Shield Wall - 1,630 Arena Points
#6 Shield of Impenetrable Darkness - Nightbane, Karazhan
#6 Sunward Crest - Exalted Shattered Sun Offensive

Libram:
#1 Tome of the Lightbringer - Mother Sharaz, Black Temple
#1 Libram of Divine Purpose - 20 Badge of Justice
#2 Libram of Repentance - 15 Badge of Justice

Trinkets:
Stamina:
Commendation of Kael'thas - Priestess Delrissa, Heroic Magisters' Terrace
Figurine - Crimson Serpent - Crafted, Jewelcrafting BOP
Darkmoon Card: Vengeance - Ace-Eight of Furies
Darkmoon Card: Madness - Ace-Eight of Lunacy
Spyglass of the Hidden Fleet - SSC trash
Gnomish Poultryizer - Crafted, Engineering
Goblin Rocket Launcher - Crafted, Engineering

Avoidance:
Shadowmoon Insignia - Gurtogg Bloodboil, Black Temple
Figurine - Empyrean Tortoise - Crafted, Jewelcrafting BOP
Scarab of Displacement - Hydross the Unstable, Serpentshrine Cavern
Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch - Moroes, Karazhan
Ancient Aqir Artifact - Zul'jin, Zulaman
Guardian's Alchemist Stone - Crafted

Threat:
Ashtongue Talisman of Zeal - Exalted Ashtongue Deathsworn
Tome of Fiery Redemption - Al'ar, Tempest Keep
Darkmoon Card: Crusade - Blessings Deck
Figurine - Crimson Serpent - Crafted, Jewelcrafting BOP
Hex Shrunken Head - Hex Lord Malacrass, Zulaman

Credit goes to snsrevived for the new formatting :)
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Re: MT gear progression

Postby Warrender » Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:57 pm

Lieris wrote:(the recent cloak and mace trash drops added in 2.2 have been omitted for crimes against fashion)


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Postby guillex » Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:08 pm

Lieris wrote:Vambraces of Courage = Wristguards of Determination > The Seeker's Wristguards


Bracers of the Green Fortress > Vambraces = Wristguards > Seeker's

Lieris wrote:Mantle of Abrahmis > Justicar Shoulderguards > Pauldrons of Abyssal Fury > Lightbringer Shoulderguards


Spaulders of Dementia > Mantle > Justicar > Abyssal > Lightbringer

I'd say Battlescar = Elusion also, just because it's more situational...

Lieris wrote:Continuum Blade = Gavel of Unearthed Secret > Fang of the Leviathan > Tempest of Chaos


CB = Crystalforged Sword = Gavel > Fang > Tempest

Again, CFS being situational...

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Postby Lieris » Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:11 pm

I've left out pre-raid items unless they're really notable. I'll add the bracers though for sure.
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Postby honorshammer » Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:15 pm

Merciless Gladiator's Gavel, Merciless Gladiator's Sheild Wall, Boots of the Resilient
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Postby guillex » Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:18 pm

Lieris wrote:I've left out pre-raid items unless they're really notable. I'll add the bracers though for sure.


Uh ... Spaulders of Dementia are pre-raid? Oh. Nevermind. I c wut u did thar!


Stuff you pick up IN raids. Gotcha. Sorry. I apologise. I'm a mini-fuckup. :oops:
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Re: MT gear progression

Postby Brittin » Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:20 pm

Shield of Impenetrable Darkness > Aldori Legacy Defender

I have been looking at this and I'm not 100% convinced its worth the upgrade. You do gain about 10 stam, but the loss in block value is sketchy IMHO.


(the recent cloak and mace trash drops added in 2.2 have been omitted for crimes against fashion)


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Postby Lieris » Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:20 pm

Honorshammer wrote:Merciless Gladiator's Gavel, Merciless Gladiator's Sheild Wall, Boots of the Resilient


Good call on the boots, I will leave out PVP items though as not everyone is able to do arena.
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Postby Lieris » Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:24 pm

Guillex wrote:
Lieris wrote:I've left out pre-raid items unless they're really notable. I'll add the bracers though for sure.


Uh ... Spaulders of Dementia are pre-raid? Oh. Nevermind. I c wut u did thar!


Stuff you pick up IN raids. Gotcha. Sorry. I apologise. I'm a mini-fuckup. :oops:


I'm not awfully clear about this, I'm sort of making this all up as I go along :P

Brittin wrote:
Shield of Impenetrable Darkness > Aldori Legacy Defender

I have been looking at this and I'm not 100% convinced its worth the upgrade. You do gain about 10 stam, but the loss in block value is sketchy IMHO.


(the recent cloak and mace trash drops added in 2.2 have been omitted for crimes against fashion)


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You get more stamina and armour on the ALD but more importantly, it looks gorgeous. I am keeping my Nightbane shield around for tanking adds, I just need to get round to replacing the stamina enchant that's on it currently with a BV one.

I couldn't be more serious about those trash drops!
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Postby kvark » Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:31 pm

was thinking the same, ALD just looks spectacular. Dropped for the first time in guild last night, I won it =) It looks like nothing else tbh
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Postby honorshammer » Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:38 pm

Lieris wrote:
Honorshammer wrote:Merciless Gladiator's Gavel, Merciless Gladiator's Sheild Wall, Boots of the Resilient


Good call on the boots, I will leave out PVP items though as not everyone is able to do arena.


I call BS. Not everyone is able to do SSC/TK/BT/MH. Anyone can find one other person to play 10 games a week.
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Postby guillex » Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:21 pm

What about the people who don't give a rat's ass about pvp/arena?

Like me...
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Postby honorshammer » Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:33 pm

Guillex wrote:What about the people who don't give a rat's ass about pvp/arena?

Like me...


There is a large difference between not wanting to do something (as you have stated) and not being able to do something (which was what the post I was replying to stated).

What I am getting at is the differnce between PVE and PVP. In the PVP Arena I can go in undergeared and unskilled and walk out with epics (able to do).

In PVE (25 man raids) I can go in undergeared and unskilled and walk out with a fat repair bill.

My main issue was with the response that some were not ABLE to do Arena. Don't want to, that's fine, not able to, I take exception.
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Postby Lieris » Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:53 pm

I've added the PVP items in brackets.
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Postby Questioner » Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:04 pm

The Merciless Gladiator's Shield Wall is leagues ahead of ALD.
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