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Guide to WotLK Gear Enchants and Gems

Postby Petrus » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:42 pm

Gems and Enchants for Tankadins

There are two parts to this guide.
1. Digren's Item Enhancement Guide, featuring recommendations for which gems/enchants are best for each piece of gear and why.
2. Petrus' Master List of Enchants and Gems, featuring a complete list of all possible gem cuts and enchants that could be useful to a tankadin in any way/shape/form. All material costs are included in this post so you don't have to run off to wowhead to look them up.

Digren's Item Enhancement Guide

This guide is intended for both new and experienced tanks looking for the most-recommended gems and enchants for their gear. However, only you, the experienced tankadin, knows what's best for you given your gear and raid role. If you feel that a your situation deserves special-case gems and enchants, see Petrus' Master List for an all-inclusive list to choose from.

General Theory

In Burning Crusade, uncrittable was easy, almost automatic, before stepping foot in the first challenging instance. It was uncrushable that became the focus of gear guides and upgrade strategy pre-Kara. That's all changed in WotLK. The new defense requirement - 540 minimum defense, 689 minimum defense rating from gear - puts a heavy focus on achieving uncrittable before being put to the test. And while uncrushable was removed as a requirement, paladins retain the block cap as their unique method to achieve maximum mitigation.

Blizzard has thus changed the game for item enhancement. Rather than focusing solely on stamina for gems, a balanced approach including defense and dodge rating is quite viable. Greatly improved socket bonuses guide gem choices, leading to the "best in slot" gem differing by slot color. For enchants, defense rating may be the early favorite for many slots, with several other options available for slots lacking a strong "best" contender.

    Stamina or Defense?
    One thing that has not changed from BC is the ratio of stamina to defense on gems. Basically, Blizzard values defense rating at 150% of stamina when itemizing gem sockets. This yields a ratio of 8-to-12, 16-to-24, or 20-to-30 for defense-to-stamina on many choices.

    This ratio can help guide both gem and enchant selection. Consider the BC enchants for bracers, for example. The top options were 12 stamina or 12 defense rating. Assuming you need defense rating from gems and enchants (and almost everyone did to some extent), the best of those is clearly the defense rating enchant. The opportunity cost for choosing defense rating as a bracer enchant was lower than choosing the stamina enchant, and then being forced to socket defense gems instead of stamina gems.
Basic Gear Strategy

There are high-quality gear guides on this site to help you craft your gear progression. However, questions about gear strategy come up often with gems and enchants, because, while most people "take what they can get" with regard to gear, most everyone has their choice of item enhancements.

What follows, then, is a basic guide for how to direct your progression.
    1. Reach the defense minimum of 540 before raiding at 10/25. Never lose this.
    2. Aim for the block cap, but it's not vital until deep into 25. Defense continues to be a great way to achieve this, but make reasonable choices to balance defense and avoidance stats with stamina and other effective health options.
    3. Push up your effective health.
    4. Start working on encounter-specific gear, such as a dedicated high-avoidance set or a dedicated effective health set. You shouldn't destroy old gear until its replacement is an upgrade to all stats; retain the old pieces to form the foundation of these custom sets.
This gem and enchant guide will help those of you working on steps 1 and 2; just pick the options I've highlighted in bold and you'll be on your way. Once you're block capped and working on effective health, it will be up to you to consider second- and third-choice enhancements, and start making reasonable exchanges, such as replacing avoidance enchants in some slots with stamina or armor options.

Gemming

Gems are available for almost any stat, but most paladins will favor defense and stamina as the primary options. There are more options for red slots due to the lack of a strong contender for "top" stat.

    Defense, Dodge, or Parry?
    In general, stacking defense rating is the best choice well-past the minimum, up to the block cap. For gear, the best choice is the piece with the highest overall avoidance and/or mitigation, depending on your use of the piece and your role in the raid. But for gems, you might have your pick of defense rating, dodge rating, or parry rating to fill sockets in avoidance gear. Which is the best choice? Detailed analysis of diminishing returns has led to a rule-of-thumb that maximizes avoidance:

    1. Stack up to 700 defense rating (uncrittable)
    2. Stack defense rating and block rating until 102.4%
    3. Stack dodge rating until dodge rating = defense rating
    4. Stack parry rating until 200 rating (assuming dodge = defense = ~700)
    5. Add dodge, defense, and parry ratings at a ratio of 10:10:2

    Remember that this includes all defense rating, dodge rating, and parry rating from gear. If you, like many tanks, have an abundance of parry rating from death knight-oriented plate, you'll never want to gem for parry.
Red Gem Slot
  • [Regal Twilight Opal] : +8 Dodge Rating and +12 Stamina : Crafted (Jewelcrafting)
  • [Stalwart Monarch Topaz] : +8 Dodge Rating and +8 Defense Rating : Crafted (Jewelcrafting)

    Digren says, "Red offers gems for strength, dodge, and parry. Few starting tanks need to worry about threat, but they are often far from block capped and low on health, so the combo dodge and stamina gem is an excellent early choice."
Blue Gem Slot
  • [Solid Sky Sapphire] : +24 Stamina : Crafted (Jewelcrafting)

    Digren says, "Put a Solid Sky Sapphire in every blue gem slot."
Yellow Gem Slot
  • [Enduring Forest Emerald] : +8 Defense Rating and +12 Stamina : Crafted (Jewelcrafting)
  • [Stalwart Monarch Topaz] : +8 Dodge Rating and +8 Defense Rating : Crafted (Jewelcrafting)
  • [Thick Autumn's Glow] : +16 Defense Rating : Crafted (Jewelcrafting)

    Digren says, "With the need to stack defense and/or pure avoidance, some may chose stalwart or thick options for yellow slots. Most should choose the combo stamina gems for a refined balance of avoidance and effective health."
Meta Gem Slot
  • [Eternal Earthsiege Diamond] : +21 Defense Rating and +5% Shield Block Value : Crafted (Jewelcrafting)
  • [Austere Earthsiege Diamond] : +32 Stamina and +2% Increased Armor Value from Items : Crafted (Jewelcrafting)

    Digren says, "While both may be viable options, the eternal gem enhances our best feature - our ability to block. Its defense helps reach uncrittable and the block cap. The austere gem provides stamina and effective health and is a close second.

    "The stamina and spell-damage-reduction gem is broken. Do not use it at this time."
Any Gem Slot
  • [Thick Dragon's Eye] : +27 Defense Rating : BoP Crafted (Jewelcrafting)
  • [Subtle Dragon's Eye] : +27 Dodge Rating : BoP Crafted (Jewelcrafting)
  • [Solid Dragon's Eye] : +41 Stamina : BoP Crafted (Jewelcrafting)

    Digren says, "Jewelcrafter tanks have these great options to choose from. Definitely start with one or more defense rating gems, then, if you wish, migrate to stamina (for effective health) or dodge (for avoidance) as your gear and situation allows."

Enchanting

Whether attained through enchanting, some other trade skill, or via purchased kits, the options for enchanting are much more varied than with gems. Unfortunately the strategy is less flexible, as the general rule is "if there's a WotLK enchant for defense rating, use it." Slots without a strong contender for best enchant have greater flexiblity, such as the continued option for threat enhancement in the hand slot, or the trade off for mobility on boots.

Head Enchant
  • [Arcanum of the Stalwart Protector] : +37 Stamina and +20 Defense Rating : Purchased (The Argent Crusade at Revered)

    Digren says, "There are no other options. Grind the faction and get this."
Shoulders Enchant
  • [Master's Inscription of the Pinnacle] : +52 Dodge Rating and +15 Defense Rating : BoP Crafted (Inscription)
  • [Greater Inscription of the Pinnacle] : +20 Dodge Rating and +15 Defense Rating : Purchased (The Sons of Hodir at Exalted)
  • [Lesser Inscription of the Pinnacle] : +15 Dodge Rating and +10 Defense Rating : Purchased (The Sons of Hodir at Honored)

    Digren says, "Inscribers, get your self-only buff here. The rest of us will grind out the incremental upgrades. Remember that Relics of Ulduar can be used for Sons of Hodir reputation, so reaching honored is pretty trivial."
Back Enchant
  • [Enchant Cloak - Titanweave] : +16 Defense Rating : Crafted (Enchanting)
  • [Enchant Cloak - Greater Agility] : +22 Agility : Crafted (Enchanting)
  • [Enchant Cloak - Mighty Armor] : +225 Armor : Crafted (Enchanting)

    Digren says, "The relatively new defense enchants take what used to be a weak enchant slot and make it quite good. As has been repeatedly pointed out, Greater Agility offers slightly more pure avoidance for those above the block cap. Some people, in some gear sets, may choose Mighty Armor to maximize mitigation."
Chest Enchant
Wrists Enchant
Hands Enchant
  • [Heavy Borean Armor Kit] : +18 Stamina : Crafted (Leatherworking)
  • [Enchant Gloves - Armsman] : +2% Threat and +10 Parry Rating : Crafted (Enchanting)
  • [Socket Gloves] : Prismatic Socket : BoP Crafted (Blacksmithing) Stacks with Other Enchants
  • [Enchant Gloves - Major Agility] : +20 Agility : Crafted (Enchanting)
  • [Glove Reinforcements] : +240 Armor : Crafted (Leatherworking)

    Digren says, "Two years ago, every paladin would have switched to engineering for the pyro rocket. Today, young tankadins might start with the armor kit for a stamina boost or maybe agility for avoidance, and switch to +threat as DPS players scale up their gear."
Waist Enchant
  • [Eternal Belt Buckle] : Prismatic Socket : Crafted (Blacksmithing) Stacks with Other Enchants

    Digren says, "This prismatic socket stacks with the engineering-only waist enchants. Sadly, those enchants are near useless in main tank gear and not worth listing. Please note that you can put any gem in a prismatic socket, not just a prismatic gem! And of course, the gem counts toward any meta activation requirement."
Legs Enchant
  • [Jormungar Leg Reinforcements] : +22 Agility and +55 Stamina : Crafted (Leatherworking)
  • [Frosthide Leg Armor] : +22 Agility and +55 Stamina : Crafted (Leatherworking)
  • [Jormungar Leg Armor] : +15 Agility and +45 Stamina : Crafted (Leatherworking)

    Digren says, "Leatherworkers get a leg up with their BoP pattern, but everyone gets the same with Frosthide as the best, if expensive, leg enchant."
Feet Enchant
  • [Enchant Boots - Tuskarr's Vitality] : +15 Stamina and +8% Run Speed : Crafted (Enchanting)
  • Enchant Boots - Greater Fortitude : +22 Stamina : Crafted (Enchanting)

    Digren says, "As usual, controversy will erupt between those that choose Pursuit of Justice and the stamina enchant, and those that put the speed on their feet. Either are reasonable based on your choice of spec."
Fingers Enchant
  • [Enchant Ring - Stamina] : +24 Stamina : BoP Crafted (Enchanting)

    Digren says, "Enchanters get their self benefit here, with a much better stamina enchant to replace the now-defunct spell power options available in BC."
Melee Weapon Enchant
  • [Enchant Weapon - Accuracy] : +25 Hit Rating and Critical Strike Rating and Blue Glow : Crafted (Enchanting)
  • [Enchant Weapon - Exceptional Agility] : +26 Agility and Green Glow : Crafted (Enchanting)
  • [Enchant Weapon - Potency] : +20 Strength and Green Glow : Crafted (Enchanting)
  • [Titanium Weapon Chain] : +28 Hit Rating, Reduce the Duration of Disarm Effects by 50%, and White Glow : Crafted (Blacksmithing)

    Digren says, "Blizzard's desire to create variety in tank enchants means we have a selection of marginal choices. Thus, stats such as strength and hit rating that are usually excluded from a "best in slot" list are included for this slot. Exceptional Agility is the best option for avoidance; Potency is best for mitigation. Recent analysis shows hit rating to be the second-best paladin threat stat. While there are better enchant options for other slots, Accuracy is quite viable here. Little trash and very few bosses disarm, making the weapon chain a distant fourth choice."

Shield Enchant
  • [Enchant Shield - Defense] : +20 Defense Rating : Crafted (Enchanting)
  • [Titanium Plating] : +40 Block Value : Crafted (Blacksmithing)

    Digren says, "The defense enchant is the best bet for becoming uncrittable and staying there. Consider the block value enchant for a second shield for situational use."
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Postby Petrus » Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:40 am

Petrus' List of All WotLK Tank Enchants and Gems


Here's the list that I've been able to compile off of WoWHead so far. I'll update it as I get more information, and feel free to post in the discussion thread if you find another suitable enchant for the list. Bolded items are recommended for the slot, just to help you remember.

Multislot Armor Kits (Head, Shoulder, Chest, Glove, Leg, Boot):
[Borean Armor Kit] - 12 Stamina (4 Borean Leather)
[Heavy Borean Armor Kit] - 18 Stamina (4 Heavy Borean Leather), Used most often on glove and shoulder slot

"Arcanum" Head enchant:
[Arcanum of the Stalwart Protector] - 37 Stamina and 20 Defense Rating, Requires Argent Crusade - Revered

"Inscription" Shoulder Enchant:
[Lesser Inscription of the Pinnacle] - 15 Dodge and 10 Defense Rating, Requires Sons of Hodir - Honored
[Greater Inscription of the Pinnacle] - 20 Dodge and 15 Defense Rating, Requires Sons of Hodir - Exalted
Inscribers only:
Master's Inscription of the Pinnacle - 52 Dodge and 15 Defense Rating (1 Snowfall Ink)

Chest:
Enchant Chest - Super Health - 275 Health (20 Infinite Dust, 4 Greater Cosmic Essence)
Enchant Chest - Mighty Health - 200 Health (3 Greater Cosmic Essence)
Enchant Chest - Greater Defense - 22 Defense Rating (10 Infinite Dust, 1 Eternal Earth)
Enchant Chest - Super Stats - 8 All Stats (4 Infinite Dust, 2 Lesser Cosmic Essence)
Enchant Chest - Powerful Stats - 10 All Stats (4 Dream Shard, 4 Abyss Crystal)

Cloak:
Enchant Cloak - Titanweave - 16 Defense Rating (8 Infinite Dust, 2 Dream Shard, 2 Titanium Bar)
Enchant Cloak - Major Agility - 22 Agility (8 Infinite Dust, 2 Greater Cosmic Essence, 2 Dream Shard)
Enchant Cloak - Mighty Armor - 225 Armor (15 Infinite Dust, 2 Greater Cosmic Essence)

Wrist:
Enchant Bracer - Expertise - 15 Expertise Rating (14 Infinite Dust, 3 Greater Cosmic Essence)
Enchant Bracer - Brawn - 12 Strength (6 Arcane Dust)
Enchant Bracer - Greater Stats - 6 All Stats (16 Infinite Dust, 3 Greater Cosmic Essence)
Enchant Bracer - Greater Assault - 50 Attack Power (24 Infinite Dust, 6 Greater Cosmic Essence)
Enchant Bracer - Striking - 38 Attack Power (6 Infinite Dust)
Enchant Bracer - Major Stamina - +40 Stamina (4 Greater Cosmic Essence, 1 Abyss Crystal)
Leatherworkers Only:
Fur Lining - Stamina - 90 Stamina (1 Arctic Fur)

Glove:
Enchant Gloves - Armsman - 10 Parry Rating and 2% Threat (2 Dream Shard, 8 Eternal Earth)
Enchant Gloves - Expertise - 15 Expertise Rating (12 Infinite Dust)
Enchant Gloves - Crusher - 44 Attack Power (20 Infinite Dust, 4 Greater Cosmic Essence, 1 Dream Shard)
Enchant Gloves - Major Agility - 20 Agility (4 Greater Cosmic Essence, 1 Dream Shard)
Enchant Gloves - Precision - 20 Hit Rating (4 Greater Cosmic Essence)
Enchant Gloves - Greater Assault - 35 Attack Power (6 Infinite Dust, 1 Greater Cosmic Essence)
Enchant Gloves - Major Strength - 15 Strength (12 Arcane Dust, 1 Greater Planar Essence)

Belt Socket:
[Eternal Belt Buckle] - One Prismatic Gem Socket (4 Saronite Bar, 1 Eternal Earth, 1 Eternal Water, 1 Eternal Shadow)

Legs:
[Jormungar Leg Armor] - 45 Stamina, 15 Agility (5 Heavy Borean Leather, 1 Jormungar Scale)
[Frosthide Leg Armor] - 55 Stamina, 20 Agility (2 Arctic Fur, 2 Nerubian Chitin)
Leatherworkers Only:
Jormungar Leg Reinforcements - 55 Stamina, 20 Agility (2 Jormungar Scale)

Boots:
Enchant Boots - Tuskarr's Vitality - 15 Stamina and Minor Run Speed Increase (10 Infinite Dust, 2 Greater Cosmic Essence, 2 Dream Shard)
Enchant Boots - Greater Fortitude - 22 Stamina (3 Lesser Cosmic Essence, 3 Infinite Dust)


Enchanter-only ring enchant:
Enchant Ring - Stamina - 24 Stamina (8 Infinite Dust, 1 Greater Cosmic Essence)

Weapon Options:
Enchant Weapon - Greater Potency - 50 Attack Power (2 Infinite Dust, 4 Lesser Cosmic Essence)
Enchant Weapon - Accuracy - 25 Hit and Crit rating (20 Infinite Dust, 4 Greater Cosmic Essence, 4 Dream Shard, 6 Abyss Crystal)
Enchant Weapon - Superior Potency - 65 Attack Power (10 Infinite Dust, 2 Greater Cosmic Essence, 2 Dream Shard, 4 Abyss Crystal)
[Titanium Weapon Chain] - 50% Shorter Disarm Duration and 28 Hit Rating (2 Saronite Bar, 1 Titanium Bar)
Enchant Weapon - Potency - 20 Strength (4 Large Prismatic Shard, 5 Greater Planar Essence, 20 Arcane Dust)
Enchant Weapon - Exceptional Agility - 26 Agility (4 Dream Shard, 4 Eternal Air)

Shield:
Enchant Shield - Defense - 20 Defense Rating (6 Infinite Dust, 6 Eternal Earth)
[Titanium Plating] - 40 Block Value (4 Titanium Bar, 4 Eternal Shadow)

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WotLK Tank Gems: Please note that this list includes some gems not currently in-game, including all epic cuts and some blue cuts.


JC-only Gems (Any Slot):
Solid Dragon's Eye - 41 Stamina
Thick Dragon's Eye - 27 Defense Rating
Bold Dragon's Eye - 27 Strength
Flashing Dragon's Eye - 27 Parry Rating
Subtle Dragon's Eye - 27 Dodge Rating
Rigid Dragon's Eye - 27 Hit Rating
Precise Dragon's Eye - 27 Expertise Rating

Meta Gems:
Austere Earthsiege Diamond - 32 Stamina and 2% Increased Armor Value from Items
Effulent Skyflare Diamond - 32 Stamina and Reduce Spell Damage Taken by 2%
Eternal Earthsiege Diamond - 21 Defense Rating and +5% Shield Block Value

Red Slot:
Bold Bloodstone - 12 Strength
Perfect Bold Bloodstone -14 Strength
Bold Scarlet Ruby - 16 Strength
Bold Cardinal Ruby - 20 Strength
Flashing Bloodstone - 12 Parry Rating
Perfect Flashing Bloodstone - 14 Parry Rating
Flashing Scarlet Ruby - 16 Parry Rating
Flashing Cardinal Ruby - 20 Parry Rating
Subtle Bloodstone - 12 Dodge Rating
Perfect Subtle Bloodstone - 14 Dodge Rating
Subtle Scarlet Ruby - 16 Dodge Rating
Subtle Cardinal Ruby - 20 Dodge Rating
Precise Bloodstone - 12 Expertise Rating
Perfect Precise Bloodstone - 14 Expertise Rating
Precise Scarlet Ruby - 16 Expertise Rating
Precise Cardinal Ruby - 20 Expertise Rating

Blue Slot:
Solid Chalcedony - 18 Stamina
Perfect Solid Chalcedony - 21 Stamina
Solid Sky Sapphire - 24 Stamina
Solid Majestic Zircon - 30 Stamina

Yellow Slot:
Thick Sun Crystal - 12 Defense Rating
Perfect Thick Sun Crystal - 14 Defense Rating
Thick Autumn's Glow - 16 Defense Rating
Thick King's Amber - 20 Defense Rating
Rigid Sun Crystal - 12 Hit Rating
Perfect Rigid Sun Crystal - 14 Hit Rating
Rigid Autumn's Glow - 16 Hit Rating
Rigid King's Amber - 20 Hit Rating

Purple Slot:
Sovereign Shadow Crystal - 6 Strength and 10 Stamina
Perfect Sovereign Shadow Crystal - 7 Strength and 11 Stamina
Sovereign Twilight Opal - 8 Strength and 12 Stamina
Sovereign Dreadstone - 10 Strength and 15 Stamina
Defender's Shadow Crystal - 6 Parry Rating and 9 Stamina
Perfect Defender's Shadow Crystal - 7 Parry Rating and 11 Stamina
Defender's Twilight Opal - 8 Parry Rating and 12 Stamina
Defender's Dreadstone - 10 Parry Rating and 15 Stamina
Guardian's Shadow Crystal - 6 Expertise Rating and 9 Stamina
Perfect Guardian's Shadow Crystal - 7 Expertise Rating and 11 Stamina
Guardian's Twilight Opal - 8 Expertise Rating and 12 Stamina
Guardian's Dreadstone - 10 Expertise Rating and 15 Stamina
Regal Shadow Crystal - 6 Dodge Rating and 9 Stamina
Perfect Regal Shadow Crystal - 7 Dodge Rating and 11 Stamina
Regal Twilight Opal - 8 Dodge Rating and 12 Stamina
Regal Dreadstone - 10 Dodge Rating and 15 Stamina

Green Slot:
Enduring Dark Jade - 6 Defense Rating and 9 Stamina
Perfect Enduring Dark Jade - 7 Defense Rating and 11 Stamina
Enduring Forest Emerald - 8 Defense Rating and 12 Stamina
Enduring Eye of Zul - 10 Defense Rating and 15 Stamina
Vivid Dark Jade - 6 Hit Rating and 9 Stamina
Perfect Vivid Dark Jade - 7 Hit Rating and 11 Stamina
Vivid Forest Emerald - 8 Hit Rating and 12 Stamina
Vivid Eye of Zul - 10 Hit Rating and 15 Stamina

Orange Slot:
Champion's Huge Citrine - 6 Strength and 6 Defense Rating
Perfect Champion's Huge Citrine - 7 Strength and 7 Defense Rating
Champion's Monarch Topaz - 8 Strength and 8 Defense Rating
Champion's Flawless Ametrine - 10 Strength and 10 Defense Rating
Etched Huge Citrine - 6 Strength and 6 Hit Rating
Perfect Etched Huge Citrine - 7 Strength and 7 Hit Rating
Etched Monarch Topaz - 8 Strength and 8 Hit Rating
Etched Flawless Ametrine - 10 Strength and 10 Hit Rating
Glimmering Huge Citrine - 6 Parry Rating and 6 Defense Rating
Perfect Glimmering Huge Citrine - 7 Parry Rating and 7 Defense Rating
Glimmering Monarch Topaz - 8 Parry Rating and 8 Defense Rating
Glimmering Flawless Ametrine - 10 Parry Rating and 10 Defense Rating
Resolute Huge Citrine - 6 Expertise Rating and 6 Defense Rating
Perfect Resolute Huge Citrine - 7 Expertise Rating and 7 Defense Rating
Resolute Monarch Topaz - 8 Expertise Rating and 8 Defense Rating
Resolute Flawless Ametrine - 10 Expertise Rating and 10 Defense Rating
Stalwart Huge Citrine - 6 Dodge Rating and 6 Defense Rating
Perfect Stalwart Huge Citrine - 7 Dodge Rating and 7 Defense Rating
Stalwart Monarch Topaz - 8 Dodge Rating and 8 Defense Rating
Stalwart Flawless Ametrine - 10 Dodge Rating and 10 Defense Rating
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