Base stats and mana costs for level 80 Paladins (data here!)
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Base stats and mana costs for level 80 Paladins (data here!)
I hope this hasn't been asked before... Also, feel free to throw in base stats for other classes. But exact values only, please!
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Thank you, Fridmarr and Fiorina, for providing your details. Based on your stats, I have calculated (and charted) the stats for all other Paladin races.
Bare stats for level 80 Paladins, by race. No gear, no professions, no talents.
* - Stats were calculated based on racial stat bonuses available at http://www.wowwiki.com/Race.
1 - Assumes 1 stamina = 10 health points.
2 - Assumes 1 intellect = 15 mana points.
3 - Assumes 1 agility = 2 armor points.
Note: Fridmarr, I calculated everything based on your values but your HP did not add up with Fiorina's. Since she posted an actual unbuffed (albeit talented) screenshot, I went with her stamina to health conversion. According to the data you provided, you have exactly 500 more health than you should.
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As per your request, InspiredOgre, I am clarifying on the base mana issue. Every class has a base mana value before racial intellect is factored in, and for Paladins that value is 2953 at level 70 and 4394 at level 80.
Based on these values I have created another chart for this thread, of all Paladin spell costs at TBC level 70, WotLK level 70 and WotLK level 80. Credit for most of these goes to InspiredOgre for his previous calculations.
Mana costs for level 70 and 80 Paladins, by spell. Every ability included.
* - This skill is not usually accessible with deep Protection talents.
Hope these charts help someone!
--- Edit ---
Thank you, Fridmarr and Fiorina, for providing your details. Based on your stats, I have calculated (and charted) the stats for all other Paladin races.
Bare stats for level 80 Paladins, by race. No gear, no professions, no talents.
* - Stats were calculated based on racial stat bonuses available at http://www.wowwiki.com/Race.
1 - Assumes 1 stamina = 10 health points.
2 - Assumes 1 intellect = 15 mana points.
3 - Assumes 1 agility = 2 armor points.
Note: Fridmarr, I calculated everything based on your values but your HP did not add up with Fiorina's. Since she posted an actual unbuffed (albeit talented) screenshot, I went with her stamina to health conversion. According to the data you provided, you have exactly 500 more health than you should.
--- Edit 2 ---
As per your request, InspiredOgre, I am clarifying on the base mana issue. Every class has a base mana value before racial intellect is factored in, and for Paladins that value is 2953 at level 70 and 4394 at level 80.
Based on these values I have created another chart for this thread, of all Paladin spell costs at TBC level 70, WotLK level 70 and WotLK level 80. Credit for most of these goes to InspiredOgre for his previous calculations.
Mana costs for level 70 and 80 Paladins, by spell. Every ability included.
* - This skill is not usually accessible with deep Protection talents.
Hope these charts help someone!
Last edited by Warcraft on Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:07 am, edited 13 times in total.
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Warcraft - Posts: 380
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Re: So what are the base stats for each Paladin race at 80?
Warcraft wrote:I hope this hasn't been asked before... Also, feel free to throw in base stats for other classes. But exact values only, please!
Your barking up a bad tree, buddy, no one here wants to talk about this topic, trust me.
See? http://www.failsafedesign.com/maintanka ... highlight=
Ive tried already.
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InspiredOgre - Posts: 317
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Bobness wrote:I think the OP is after base stats for
Health/Stamina
Mana/Intellect
Strength
Agility
Spirit (Lol)
& a comparison against other classes.
I was after what I bolded, Bob.... and I got no answers, read the thread I linked (gotta go down all the way.)
I asked for 1/5th of what the OP is asking for, and didnt get that, so, Im not optimistic he will get an answer either...
though I hope he does... EZPECIALLY with what I bolded.
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InspiredOgre wrote:Bobness wrote:I think the OP is after base stats for
Health/Stamina
Mana/Intellect
Strength
Agility
Spirit (Lol)
& a comparison against other classes.
I was after what I bolded, Bob.... and I got no answers, read the thread I linked (gotta go down all the way.)
I asked for 1/5th of what the OP is asking for, and didnt get that, so, Im not optimistic he will get an answer either...
though I hope he does... EZPECIALLY with what I bolded.
Well, he's only asking for level 80.
My dwarven stats are as follows, level 80, completely naked and with no talents
Health: 6174
Mana: 5569
Strength: 153
Agility: 86
Stamina: 146
Intellect: 97
Spirit: 104
Armor: 172
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Fridmarr wrote:InspiredOgre wrote:Bobness wrote:I think the OP is after base stats for
Health/Stamina
Mana/Intellect
Strength
Agility
Spirit (Lol)
& a comparison against other classes.
I was after what I bolded, Bob.... and I got no answers, read the thread I linked (gotta go down all the way.)
I asked for 1/5th of what the OP is asking for, and didnt get that, so, Im not optimistic he will get an answer either...
though I hope he does... EZPECIALLY with what I bolded.
Well, he's only asking for level 80.
My dwarven stats are as follows, level 80, completely naked and with no talents
Health: 6174
Mana: 5569
Strength: 153
Agility: 86
Stamina: 146
Intellect: 97
Spirit: 104
Armor: 172
was that my downfall? I asked for more than just 80?
Can you do me a favor, mouse over your intellect in your character frame, tell me how much mana your intellect gives you? please? thanks.
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InspiredOgre wrote:Fridmarr wrote:InspiredOgre wrote:Bobness wrote:I think the OP is after base stats for
Health/Stamina
Mana/Intellect
Strength
Agility
Spirit (Lol)
& a comparison against other classes.
I was after what I bolded, Bob.... and I got no answers, read the thread I linked (gotta go down all the way.)
I asked for 1/5th of what the OP is asking for, and didnt get that, so, Im not optimistic he will get an answer either...
though I hope he does... EZPECIALLY with what I bolded.
Well, he's only asking for level 80.
My dwarven stats are as follows, level 80, completely naked and with no talents
Health: 6174
Mana: 5569
Strength: 153
Agility: 86
Stamina: 146
Intellect: 97
Spirit: 104
Armor: 172
was that my downfall? I asked for more than just 80?
Can you do me a favor, mouse over your intellect in your character frame, tell me how much mana your intellect gives you? please? thanks.
Well kind of, since I was level 77 when your thread was posted, I couldn't give you most of the answers, so kind of shelved it somewhere in my brain, and when that happens, there's not much hope.
To answer your question, I do have talents and gear on, but none that should affect this number. According to my character sheet, the 97 intellect I mentioned above, provides me 1175 mana.
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/most/ people were level 77, and you weren't exactly concise, even if you were clear.
And don't forget that Fridmarr is refering specifically and solely to Dwarf Paladins at 80.
And don't forget that Fridmarr is refering specifically and solely to Dwarf Paladins at 80.
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QuantumDelta wrote:/most/ people were level 77, and you weren't exactly concise, even if you were clear.
And don't forget that Fridmarr is refering specifically and solely to Dwarf Paladins at 80.
This is why I asked for the mana gained from int....
Base mana is uneffected by race, class only...
Base mana at 80 is 4394... That means seals cost 615, and judgements cost 220 (untalented...)
thats 1441 more mana than level 70.... EXACTLY the same amount gained from 61-70.... meaning we got approximately 144 mana per level (with some wierd levels thrown in, still donno why)
So, the scale stuck from BC to WotLK...
THANK you for the info!
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Well, your screenshot proves my Blood Elf calculations were right. Your raw stats match perfectly when factoring in the extra 15% strength and 16% stamina from talents. Your actual HP, though, shares an exactly 500 point discrepancy with Fridmarr's. I have no clue why that is but since your data is an actual screenshot, I've updated my chart accordingly.
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WTB better fucking stats for belfs, damnit.
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